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bamt
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 18 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is usual for premiums to go up after a crash that wasn't your fault. As I understand it, statistically (which is all they care about) someone who has been in an accident is more likely to be in another, maybe because of how they ride/drive, or because of where/time of day they are riding/driving.

It is unfair if you are genuinely a good, careful rider, but not a lot you can do about it
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 18 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on an analyst who may be applying peculiar logic of this form:

Arrow All fraudsters have been involved in accidents.
Arrow Most people have not been involved in accidents.
Arrow Therefore as soon as you're involved in an accident, the probability that you're a fraudster rises sharply.

Arrow All people who are involved in multiple accidents are involved in one accident.
Arrow Therefore as soon as you're involved in one accident, the probability that you will be involved in multiple accidents goes up.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 18 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The closest I've found is whichever company I'm with didn't care about a no-fault car accident I had four years ago. Nothing to declare on the bike front though.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 18 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
The closest I've found is whichever company I'm with didn't care about a no-fault car accident I had four years ago. Nothing to declare on the bike front though.


Which company have you been with that didn't ask for a fault/non-fault car accident???
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 19 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

8:

Certain wassok roadside repair company came out to sort out a jammed up ignition switch, removed the steering lock actuator but left the steering lock pin which is now loose and floating around. I move off, turn left onto main road and vibrations cause steering lock to engage.

On crutches for a few weeks with a slightly torn up knee, bike has gone for estimates with independant suzuki main dealer for certain wassock roadside repair company to fix.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 19 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I caught my elbow on a tree today.

I was riding round the trees out the back of work, left hand corner, my outside elbow, right elbow, clonked on a low branch. This pushed my arm back, twitching the front end and straightening the bike up. Not a massive spill, but I went ploughing into the undergrowth at the side of the track. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding my Honda in moving traffic down Kingsway last night in rush hour - a hugely busy dual carriageway in central London (outside Holborn station). Dude decides to play Frogger, runs out from between two adjacent buses stationary in bus lane, narrowly avoids getting hit by a car in lane 2 and then freezes in my headlight in lane 3 as I hit the brake and try to swerve.

Hit him, we both went down. Bike's instrumentation and wingmirror disintegrated, front brake lever bent and handlebars are no longer straight.

He got up before I did, refused to help me lift the bike and said he was going to leave. I told him to stay where he was and called Police. Police took statements, he admitted fault on record, said he was late for work. CCTV operator caught the whole thing and radioed through to confirm there was nothing I could have done to avoid him.

Ambulance arrived (45 minutes later!!), at which point our man tells them he'd blacked out - which was a lie proved by CCTV, but meant they still had to take him to hospital. So instead of getting checked in the ambulance I took my bike trousers off in the back of a police car and got myself checked over by an attractive blonde nurse. There's a first time for everything.

I'm left with about £300 of repairs (or I would be if I could source parts for my VRX400, which are rare as rocking horse shit), a scuffed brand new helmet, huge bruise on knee and a black big toenail that's loose and will come off soon.

Oh, and Policeman suggested the guy will probably try and InjuryLawyers4U me.

4 years riding daily in London, suppose it was just a statistical probability....
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing as it's all been caught on cctv and he's admitted fault (for now anyway), can you not claim damages from frogger man? Might be worth looking into.

Good luck on getting your bike sorted anyway. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about the off, glad it's on Camera too though.

as for parts, the only place i really know of is;

https://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?auccat=26308&p=honda+vrx&tab_ex=commerce&ei=euc-jp

not ideal by any means, but i hope it can help in some way.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 21 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. As for camera yep good it's on CCTV, though it was the first ride that week I wasn't rolling a GoPro! Would have at least made for some dramatic slo-mo footage...

BravoCharlie, cheers yeah that is my only hope - I scoured it yesterday for the right parts, worked out the Japanese for tachometer etc, but no one's breaking a VRX at the mo. I'll just have to ride tacho-less (thankfully the speedo held up) until someone in Japan decides to scrap theirs...
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

10. Wife's just killed her chinky 125cc scooter. Busy roundabout, lots of traffic. Waited a long time for a gap. Break in the traffic, starts to move and glances right to see a car bearing down on her, skids than bang!

Luckily no ambulance needed but the Police were keen and very polite and helpful. Wife doesnt really know what happened and is in shock but its either-

A. She didnt look properly
B. The car sped round the roundabout to beat the traffic (I know I do)
C. Bit of both as that bloody scooter is soooo slow pulling away!

I was just dropping my brother off and dreading sitting in the traffic, thank god I'm on the bike- must have been an accident, then "Feck me!" it's the wife Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 22 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimmyd wrote:
Dude decides to play Frogger, runs out from between two adjacent buses stationary in bus lane, narrowly avoids getting hit by a car in lane 2 and then freezes in my headlight in lane 3 as I hit the brake and try to swerve.

Shocked I know it well, it's a big road to try and run across in heavy traffic = he must be an idiot. Darwin didn't get him this time, but his turn will come...
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

#11 I think

#3 son on his 50 on the weekend, coming home from his GF's about 20:00hrs and managed the following.

Just come into a 30 limit, so slowed down accordingly.
Passing the local pub, sees lights coming up to the exit, so slows to about 25 and moves slightly over to the left to enhance his vision and gives the car more chance to see him and stop, which it does.

As he passes the entrance (after hedges, buildings and fences fro tha past couple of miles or so), a gust of wind blasts out of the gap and pushes him over to the left even further.

Right into the kerb on the side of the road and dumps him off.

Bounces and rolls down the pavement relatively OK until he meets the local bus shelter head on, litterally.

Lid
https://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz157/mikeallen3lly3900/IMAG0665_zps1b2ed3c4.jpg

Better one of lid (not the scratches and holes from bolts in shelter)
https://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz157/mikeallen3lly3900/IMAG0666_zpsa99a0c2a.jpg

The car coming out of the pub, rushes up, stops and attends to him, whilst he calls me, along with another car who stops to help, both very nice people.

Nothing serious injured as such, bruised hips (would have been worse without pads in trousers), bruised shoulder (again, would have been worse without armour in the jacket) and the following to the face
https://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz157/mikeallen3lly3900/IMAG0664_zpsc537f0b7.jpg

Obv's off to A&E, seen within 20 mins and out withing the hour.

Suspected broken nose, but not displaced, so should heal up nicely, a couple of scratches, but generally got off very lightly.

The best thing I can see is that he does not really want to tell his mates about it too much, does not see it as a rite of passage or something to brag about, so painfull lesson, well learned.

Oh, BTW, Cheapy Spannish Supermoto type of bike, so plastic panels, easy to repair the scratches to the surface, nothing bent, nothing broken, exhaust got a scuff, but like the boy, bruised, but nothing serious.

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PostPosted: 09:50 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

dolly3900 wrote:
The best thing I can see is that he does not really want to tell his mates about it too much, does not see it as a rite of passage or something to brag about, so painfull lesson, well learned.

Pretty good result, all round! Could have been so much worse. Pity about the facial stuff, how did that happen with a full-face on?
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pity about the facial stuff, how did that happen with a full-face on?[/quote]

Face first into a bus stop? not much fun
Lid fitted fine (scrapped now obviously)

Just think it was the sudden stop from speed and a small amount of forward movement.

That said, he had had a nasal cuaterisation the day before, so a little rough around the edges to start with.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

dolly3900 wrote:
Just think it was the sudden stop from speed and a small amount of forward movement.

Might be worth double-checking the fit on his next lid - may have been slightly too big for him?
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 11 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Sharky lid yesterday, same size, nice tightish fit, size smaller could not get on his head.

Not got the cash to pay for a custom fit one Smile
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 30 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really a spill, but got rear-ended by another scooter on my commute this morning.

Evidently I braked a little too sharply for him. Did a lifesaver before going between two cars and saw him coming, straightened up and braced for impact. Kept the SH up.

He hit my rear mudguard. Only observable damage is snapped registration plate screws, and cracks in the plate itself.

Any opinions on what I can do about temporarily not having a license plate on my scooter? I finished my trip this morning (~300m) without incident, but when I finish work at 18:30 tonight, should I risk riding home through the streets of London without a plate?

(I'll probably find some string or cable ties or something and hang it loosely until I get home. I have black and yellow registration plate screws and bolts at home so that's not a problem, until I get a new plate made up and delivered.)
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 21 May 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC wrote:
Going to order a new brake lever but what about the bolts/screws? They all have a blob of yellow paint on (I guess security markings?) so should I try replacing them?

The yellow paint is a Honda quality control mark indicating the bolts have been torqued.

I have no idea if you should try and replace them though, I don't know how hard the hire people would try to stick it to you.
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 11 Jun 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crashed at the PB track day at Rockingham. Tipped into Gracelands (The fast left before the second hairpin). The track drops away a little, so the bike can do light. Too much lean and the tyres just slide away. Doh.

Top Fairing smashed, LHS main fairing, tail unit, engine case, indicators, tank, and frame all scuffed/shot blasted by the gravel.
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