Game changer, no more Jags...

[P.addy]

Looking at one of these, 2004, fairly high miles but I rarely drive, but when I do I like comfort and mod cons, this is loaded with everything.. Full history by Jaguar for past 9 years, cannot really think of faults but wondered if anyone here has had one, info, problems etc?

[dodsi]

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=285928

Check out this thread serendipitously about the same thing.

[stevo as b4]

Paddy your doing it all wrong dude!

I rarely drive anything except a diesel transit, but I hate mod cons, and gizmos and electronic crap.

You want a slammed car, with solid engine mounts, solid suspension top mounts, polybushes and rock hard coilovers, that have zero ride compliance!

Other useful features are a very low mounted exposed air filter behind the front bumper, and precious little ground clearance for the exhaust downpipe, sump and oil filter! Add in a paddle clutch, and an engine with a lumpy tickover due to big cams and a light flywheel and your good to go!

[gbrand42]

Aren't these basically the same as a Mondeo under the skin? Millions of reps can't be wrong, I reckon it would be a pretty safe bet.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Can't comment for the diseasal, but we have a 2.5 petrol one.

Depends what you want in a car. Set up as a softly sprung, slow steering and understeering lump. Pleasant for wandering down a motorway, but at best no fun on A roads / B roads (and often frustrating).

Build quality is OK, but not great. When we got it, it had more interior squeaks than the Alfa 156 we also had despite the Alfa having 3 times them mileage. On the other hand the squeaks haven't really got worse.

Boot is a decent size (and some have fold down seats). Seats are comfy. Heater decent enough (although I find it annoying that it is so keen to turn the a/c on when you adjust anything). Headlights are pathetic.

Reliability has been fine. Had a lambda probe fail on the manifold which was a minor pain to change. Starter motors can stick but on the V6 manuals are a doddle to take off and clean up. Had some rear suspension links wear out which is common enough but they were not bad to change (except you need a decent 18mm socket, and never needed one of those before). Eats headlight bulbs (averages one every other month). Central locking played up which turned out to be the tiny flap that covers the ignition key hole; it stuck and then the car thinks the key is still in the ignition and the central locking won't work. The pedal boxes wear and you land up with the brake lights coming on as you push the clutch pedal down (fixed by gluing a half mm piece of plastic on top of the brake light switch). Drivers door started to often not unlock which is a common problem with one of the lever to the lock needing adjusting which was a pain (the door cards are a pig to get off without damage).

Think the diseasals have dual mass flywheels which are not that long lived.

All the best

Keith
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[P.addy]

Haven't really looked at Volvos, I like the idea of leather and long distance mile munching which is why the Jag initially appealed. I guess any reliable diesel would be great but I've not seen many tasty Volvos.

for the advice.

[Rigga]

[wots]

You want to buy mine off me.

VX Signum 3.0 V6 CDTi Elite.
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[P.addy]

Price...?

[wots]

[dydey90]

Paddy can we go Jag shopping together?
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[Fisty]

[sidewinder]

Dad gots the 2.0 diesel it's needed a new dual mass flywheels and new injectors in 194,000 miles apart from that has been a great car really his is on a 04 to.

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[Kickstart]

[P.addy]

[dydey90]

Same reason as I'm wanting one really, 90% of my mileage is spent on the M1 going from Leeds to Nottingham and back.
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[stevo as b4]

I've got nothing against diesel, but they need a hell of a lot more maintenance than petrols IMO.

I'd avoid anything with a DPF fitted, or have it removed and re-mapped to suit. And anything with EGR id either strip and clean out the valve and pipework or fit an EGR delete kit.

Also newer common rail engines are IMO a very expensive 10year old+ secondhand proposition, and generally if anyone has been experimenting with alternative fuels in a common rail motor, then it could easily be fucked in a short time.

Older mechanical and electronically controlled pump fed motors are just as good for tuning, and IMO common rail can be a cover up for just bad engine design.

I'd also be checking oil feed lines, and possibly replacing them or cleaning them out, and use fully synth 5w-40 dumping it and the filter say every 6000m if you want to ensure good reliability and performance on older diesels or anything tuned.

Check boost hoses, and plastic intercooler end tanks and pipework for splits, and always use a good clean air filter to keep MAF's clean and working for as long as possible.

std for std just as an everyday car with as little attention required as possible I'd choose petrol for anything under 10-12k p/yr.
Diesels can be good/interesting and even fun tuned, and are better these days in many cases for tuning than petrol's unless your petrol also has a snail fitted.

That said, turbo diesels will often feel much faster than tuned turbo petrols, even though they aren't and don't have as much bhp.

A lightly re-mapped Skoda fabia VRS with 150-155bhp feels a lot quicker than my 260-270bhp petrol car, and will pick up quickly with that push you back in the seat feeling, where as my 2.0 petrol is not doing much and stays in vacuum until 2400-2500rpm, feeling a bit meh!

[Rogerborg]

[Kickstart]

Hi

True, but the 2.5 V6 is hell of a lot quicker car and has 4wd, while the diseasal is 40hp+ down on power and fwd.

Long run sitting at 56mph the 2.5 gave over 39mpg according to the trip computer. 35mpg is pretty easy sitting at about 70. Short journeys and use around town might be best not spoken of though.

All the best

Keith
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[P.addy]

Well I can't edit my post... so I've been given more job security which is a good thing

I'm now fobbing off the Jag as the local ones appear to be dogs and upping the game, I'd like something with a turbo, RWD, hot hatch.. something that fits 2 of those options. So far I have the Golf GTI, Audi A3 1.8T and an RX8, thats about it

Any ideas?

[wots]

[garth]

Do you need four seats?

[P.addy]

Well, I'd consider the A3 a hatch, with turbo, so fills 2.
The RX8 is a weird one, its got high HP but RWD so ticks my box anyway.

4 seats... not a necessity, but I don't fancy an MX5.