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bryera
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 04 Apr 2014    Post subject: Holts FireGum Exhaust Gasket ??? Reply with quote

Hay guys sorry if this has been covered before but I have just got a new exhaust and I have tried putting in the exhaust gasket seal in and I have had two now and broke them and can not be assed with them any more I was wonting to know can I us Holts FireGum.

https://reviews.halfords.com/4028/741520/reviews.htmn

and would that be just as good or do I need that gasket seal in as its the only thing stopping me from putting it on Grrr lol


Gasket seal that keeps braking
https://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb106/bryera89/680508_10152025109358342_331437446_o_zpscf2a5952.jpg


Where I am thinking of putting FireGum
https://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb106/bryera89/10001234_10152025110038342_14478620_o_zps572ea77e.jpg

https://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb106/bryera89/10176047_10152025109073342_1295245258_n_zpsa02dbb10.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 04 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

use that gasket and use firegum as lube
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 04 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SQL wrote:
use that gasket and use firegum as lube


I will ask her indoors if she will accept fire gum as lube! Can't see that happening tbh
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 04 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ Ha-ha I don't have the Gasket seal now as it fucking snapped agene lol so was just looking at using the fire gum ???
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he is saying is use the broken gasket and use the fire gum as a filler/sealer rather than using loads of fire gum .
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use plumbers silicone. The clear stuff you'd seal round your bath with.

It'll cope with more heat than the average motorcycle engine can throw at it, makes a flexile seal and any excess wipes off with a cloth. If you want to remove it, it just peels off.

Fire cement is crap, brittle, a total nightmare to work with, sticks to everything but the bit you want it to and is difficult to remove when set.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Use plumbers silicone. The clear stuff you'd seal round your bath with.

It'll cope with more heat than the average motorcycle engine can throw at it, makes a flexile seal and any excess wipes off with a cloth. If you want to remove it, it just peels off.

Fire cement is crap, brittle, a total nightmare to work with, sticks to everything but the bit you want it to and is difficult to remove when set.


I was surprised to see this stuff actually does work. Used it on my GPZ once.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bodger in me wants to know if it'll work on the header pipe at the head end. Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i.p.phrealy wrote:
the bodger in me wants to know if it'll work on the header pipe at the head end. Thinking


Yes. I've used it on the push-fit header on my Enfield and that's air-cooled.

You also get special high temperature silicone in B&Q for sealing stove flues. I just used the bog-standard plumbers stuff though.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You also get special high temperature silicone in B&Q for sealing stove flues.

I've used that stuff in conjunction with rope hemp for sealing exhaust joints. It seals perfectly and it doesn't dry-up and crack.
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Use plumbers silicone. The clear stuff you'd seal round your bath with.

It'll cope with more heat than the average motorcycle engine can throw at it, makes a flexile seal and any excess wipes off with a cloth. If you want to remove it, it just peels off.

Fire cement is crap, brittle, a total nightmare to work with, sticks to everything but the bit you want it to and is difficult to remove when set.


Didn't work for me. Got hot, turned black, burnt down to a black oily substance that stained my stainless pipe! Holts gun gum didn't work either, after 2 weeks went brittle and it all snapped off.

If you still intend using sealant, go for the ultra heat resistant stuff, costs about 7quid a tube. By all means try normal bath sealant first, but be prepared to scrape it off and start again if it burns.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

As they say, plus 1 for the high temp sealant. Used it on a BMW 7 series water pump, several other places over the years. Was able to get that water pump out after several years, stuff just peeled, seemed to stop rot setting in.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hay guys thanks for all the advice I will be nipping to Halfords in 10 and getting some clear Gasket sealer and will be putting that rand it and the gasket seal then bike will be back on the road with any luck in this nice weather we been have lol

Thanks Guys !!!
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is good gear, only a fiver a tube and will work up to 300 celcius, designed to seal flue pipes it works perfectly on exhaust systems, available from any plumbing /heating supplier or hardware stores.

https://uksealants.co.uk/everbuild-heatmate-high-temperature-silicone--p275.html
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonzoomer wrote:
https://uksealants.co.uk/everbuild-heatmate-high-temperature-silicone--p275.html

That's the stuff that I use and it's excellent but I'm sure that I only pay £2 or £3 per tube.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

is that stuff easy to remove if I had to remove the exhaust ??

Thanks
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bryera wrote:
is that stuff easy to remove if I had to remove the exhaust ??

Thanks
Yes, use a sharp stanley knife to break the seal then simply scrap the sealant off or just peel it of.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 05 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another +1 for high temp silicone sealer ....which you can get from most DIY/plumber centres......don't use std clear silicone as if you have any gaps it melts and fails at temperature. The high temp stuff expands a bit with heat helping it to seal yet still has a bit of flex to help deal with expanding metal parts which is where things like fire gum just turn to dust and blow out ......use it as assembly paste and it works well
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks moonzoomer / Raffles I have just ordered that Heat Mate Resistant Silicone Sealant from this site a little cheaper

https://www.transtools.co.uk/fixings-hardwares/sealants-and-adhesives/fire-stove-and-flue-cement/everbuild-heat-mate-resistant-silicone-sealant-black-310ml

so ones it gets here I can finally get it fitted ha-ha
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