Why don't after market huggers fit?

[Wonko The Sane]

I now have a skidmarx and a pyramid rear hugger for my fairly standard ZZR600

I spent sunday afternoon attempting to fit the skidmarx one but it wouldn't fit without rubbing the rear wheel quite badly.

I've spent this evening trying to fit the pyramid one, but again, this one rubs the rear wheel too.


how fucking hard is it to make a fucking piece of bloody plastic fit a bike that's been around for more than two bloody decades?

What do they do, have a look under a bike at a show and try to make the fucking thing from memory?

All I want is something to protect my shock from crap being flung at it, doesn't have to be fancy, doesn't have to be swish, just needs to fucking fit the bloody bike and do it's bloody job.


If you're wondering why not stick with the factory fitted one it got damaged by someone ramming me at a set of traffic lights.
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[Fisty]

Have you got the correct size tyre fitted? I had a Pyramid one on my ZZR and it fitted fine.
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[Wonko The Sane]

The tyre on there is the one that was on when I bought it, I'm presuming it to be the correct size for the bike.

Just been and checked, 160, 60, 17
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[Fisty]

Yup, thats the right size.
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[kawakid]

Weird never had an issue and have aftermarketsbon both bikes.
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[Itchy]

Potentially it might be that your bike isn't stock. Bikes can come with all sorts of hidden histories.

My CBR6 for instance, swing arm came off a F4i (meaning it was 20mm longer).

The forks came off a F4i (pre 2004) as well.

While the rear brake caliper turned out to be from a CBR600RR.

The shock was also off something else too as when I put the swing arm on it didn't quite fit and had an additional thing welded on.
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[Shaft]

Could be that something's a bit pissed from the accident, causing the hugger to mount skew whiff.
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[Llama-Farmer]

I've got a Pyramid rear hugger on the Hornet and it won't quite fit if there is a new (unstretched) chain AND a new tyre.

Too much tread + the wheel too far forwards = rubbing.

After a few hundred miles, retensioned the chain and the slightest fraction of mm of worn tyre and there was just about enough room. Although when the hot tyre picked up small stones you could hear them scrape the hugger still.

A thousand or so miles later theres plenty of space now.


Might just be the way.
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[Wonko The Sane]

Unfortunately that's not the case, the chain has a few thousand miles on it, the tyre even more so.

If I were to file the mounting holes for the hugger and mount it slightly higher / slightly forwards there shouldn't be any issues provided it's tight?

If your tyre rubs when you've got a new one and new chain on, do you just go with it and let the tyre wear the hugger away for a bit?
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[Polarbear]

I have a powerbronze one on my Explorer, that fits fine and I can't say I've ever had any problems with other aftermarket stuff.

I would think Powerbronze, Skidmarx and Pyramid are pretty careful to do their research & get things right for each bike. If they started turning out ill fitting gear it would get round pretty quickly.

I'm with Itchy on this one, is something not standard on your bike?
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[wr6133]

Sounds silly but..... are you sure it's for your ZZR? The models changed over the years and parts for say a D may not fit an E... etc

[Wonko The Sane]

everything appears to be standard, the only modifications I know of are removal of the clean air system and fitting fireblade calipers to the front

the skidmarx is about 5mm out from fitting but rubs, have arranged to return it but might have another go at fitting
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Never had an issue with after market huggers IME.
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[Hetzer]

I had murders with a Pyramid item for a 1998 Blade. T'was utter shite, I had to do all manner of surgery, tie-wrap and spacing-washers to get it to fit. And that was after numerous pics exchanged between me and Pyramid. After they'd sent a replacement because we figured the first was the wrong one. It was just extremely poorly made/dimensioned.
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[DrSnoosnoo]

I wonder whether they expect the ZZR has the same swingarm as a ZX-R?

I have drilled out, widened and filed my current one to make fit. Total bodgery but now it at least stays on and keeps shit off my shock.
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