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Mantzy
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Fix it, break it or sell it? Reply with quote

What you guys reckon? Initial quote from the garage said that it'll be 2-3Ks to fix it with new parts and it's only worth £2.5K. Could get parts cheaper and ride around with a mismatched fairing till i get it resprayed. Save me some cash at least and could probably get it alright again for £1Kish.

Or

Break it into parts myself and sell them on ebay

Or

Sell it as a damaged repairable or to a breaker.

Any ideas?
R
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Sounds like a repair using new parts is not worthwhile.

If you sell it to a breaker they will give you peanuts for it. Probably £250~£500 as that seems to be the amount an insurance company want for letting you keep a bike and they are not going to sell it for less than a breakers would pay.

Down to repair it yourself or break it.

Breaking it is a fair amount of work. Suspect you would not get a massive amount for it.

Personally I would fix it up using 2nd hand parts from breakers and Ebay.

What is the full damage?

All the best

Keith
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Mantzy
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The full damage is 3 pages long and been priced at £3.5K (new parts)...know i need a new tyre, clutch cover, right side fairing (not going to happen), front wheel, rearset, clipon, switchgear, front brake lever, exhaust, mirror and apparently loads oif other bits. Sure it can't be as much as that.

R
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Gazdaman
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay/breakers yard some second hand bits. Fix it up, it'd be a shame to see it go to a breakers.

I smell a streetfighter ZX?

Gaz
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Mantzy
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Exhaust = £490
    Stay, FR Step, RH = £40.14
    Step, FR, RH = £20.72
    Bolt 6x10 = £1.40
    Cover-Clutch = £68.27 Just bought
    Gasket, Clutch cover = £6.90
    Bolt, 6x30 = £2.16
    Cowling, Side RH, Firecracker Red = £325.40
    Cowling-assy, Upper, Firecracker Red = £320.03
    Bracket, Mirror = £35.70
    Mirror assembly, RH = £35.99
    Holder-Handle, RH = £36.66
    Handle RH = £30.59
    Housing assy control = £51.44
    Grip assy, Throttle = £14.81
    Weight, Handle = £9.14
    Lever-comp, Front brake = £27.23
    Wheel assy, Front, Gray = £325.49
    Pipe-comp-right fork = £156.87
    Seal-oil, Fork outer = £5.78
    Axle, Front = £26.70
    Weight, Handle = £9.14
    Filter Assy, Oil = £7.67
    Pad, Side Cowling, RH, Upper = £5.46
    Pad, Side Cowling, RH, Central = £5.46
    Pad, Side Cowling, RH, Lower = £14.46
    Pad, Upper Cowling, RH = £3.51
    Pad, Upper Cowling, LH = £3.51
    Lever-Brake, Pedal = £38.29
    Step, RR, RH = £29.60
    Cover-Meter Case, Upper = £44.09
    Tank-Resonator, RH, M.F. = £29.92
    Bracket, Mirror = £35.70
    120/65-Z17 Dunlop D207 = £75.90
    Duct, Inner = £12.62
    Duct, Ram, RH, M.F.C.GRA = £71.37
    Seal, Cover, RH = £2.04
    Cover, Ram Duct, RH, M.F. = £21.36
    Stay = £41.16
    3.6 litres engine oil = £19.87
    Fork oil = £5.02
    Screws = £7.92
    Washers, Nylon, 5.3x11.5 = £8.40
    Nuts, 5mm = £22.96


+ VAT, labour, sundries, p&p, frame touch-up and delivery = £3487.80

- labour, sundries and frame touch-up = £3118.80

But that's for brand new stuff and i'm sure i don't need all of it
R[/list]
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fuel
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 14 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
I smell a streetfighter ZX?



was just what i was thinkin

Fuel...............

mail me if ya wanna get rid, i'm after a new project
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 15 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Well, with the vat over £1500 of that bill is a front wheel, couple of fairing panels and an exhaust (presume just the silencer). Probably £250 for a new aftermarket can and those other bits 2nd hand. Rest should be easy to source.

All the best

Keith
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Azmodeus
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 15 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bracket, Mirror = £35.70 - got this down twice, and you wont pay that much for a pair of complete mirrors.

Screws = £7.92/Nuts, 5mm = £22.96 - Fucking hell! they made out of gold or something?!

I would go try somewhere else mate. Show them that estimate, and I bet you they will go lower (even if they only knock £50 off so they get the business)
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Ste
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PostPosted: 02:53 - 15 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Step 1: Don't buy new parts.
Step 2 Fill it Part Locator and Part Finder.
Step 3. Phone around breakers, have a look at this list

Keep an eye on the MCN Ninjas forum and eBay.

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Mantzy
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 15 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith, I've seen an OE exhaust on ebay for £40 so keeping an eye on that, plus West Coast Salvage are breaking a whole front spindle so watching that too. The fairings I can probably do without if needs be till I find some.

I now the mirror bracket is on there twice, but wrote down the list exactly as written...the mirror bracket is the metal bar that connects to the fronmt fairing and the frame...don't need more than 1. And the nuts and bots I ca get from B&Q!

A few breakers have contacted me already regarding parts so will be giving them a call.

Cheers for the help. Getting the bike back on Monday so will be able to have a proper going over myself. I don't think it'll be TOO hard to fix it up but this time, I think i might invest in decent crash bungs.

R
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G
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 15 Jan 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what all their designations mean, but this is what I reckon it's likely to cost if you shop around a bit on ebay etc.

Try asking on www.mcnninjas.co.uk ; if their board is still working anyway.

Go to your local hardware store for bolts, or get a big tub of them.

Fairings aren't needed; if your lights are ok, then it should hold the front fairing without the side panels.

Exhaust = £100 for an orignal full system on ebay, maybe less
Stay, FR Step, RH = £40.14 ?
Step, FR, RH = £20.72 ?
Bolt 6x10 = £1.40
Cover-Clutch = £68.27 Just bought
Gasket, Clutch cover = £6.90 Real men reuse gaskets Smile
Bolt, 6x30 = £2.16
Cowling, Side RH, Firecracker Red = From about £35 on ebay for a tatty but inshape one; or repair it?
Cowling-assy, Upper, Firecracker Red = From about £35 on ebay; or repair it?
Bracket, Mirror = £15-20
Mirror assembly, RH = £15-20 for both mirrors I think
Holder-Handle, RH = £5-10 if you can find one
Handle RH = £5-10 for both sides
Housing assy control = £15-25, if it can't be repaired
Grip assy, Throttle = £5-10
Weight, Handle = £10 for a pair new
Lever-comp, Front brake = £7-10
Wheel assy, Front, Gray = pair of wheel with all the bits from about £200-£300 on ebay at the mo, including tyres, if you're lucky. Less for single front (the rear always goes for more as well).
Pipe-comp-right fork = A pair of forks: about £125-200, less than half that if you can find a single one
Seal-oil, Fork outer = £5.78 not needed with new fork
Axle, Front = £26.70 Try and get with wheel
Weight, Handle = £9.14 get a pair, see above.
Filter Assy, Oil = £7.67 Get free with oil from busters
Pad, Side Cowling, RH, Upper = £5.46 It's a bike, what would you want padding for Razz
Pad, Side Cowling, RH, Central = £5.46 It's a bike, what would you want padding for Razz
Pad, Side Cowling, RH, Lower = £14.46 It's a bike, what would you want padding for Razz
Pad, Upper Cowling, RH = £3.51 It's a bike, what would you want padding for Razz
Pad, Upper Cowling, LH = £3.51 It's a bike, what would you want padding for Razz
Lever-Brake, Pedal = £5-10
Step, RR, RH = £29.60 ?
Cover-Meter Case, Upper = Not sure what this is for; if it's important, probably £10-20
Tank-Resonator, RH, M.F. = £29.92 ?
Bracket, Mirror = £35.70 See above
120/65-Z17 Dunlop D207 = £75.90 Get a better tyre, and get it cheap on ebay Smile
Duct, Inner = £2-5
Duct, Ram, RH, M.F.C.GRA = £5-10
Seal, Cover, RH = £2.04
Cover, Ram Duct, RH, M.F. = £21.36
Stay = £41.16
3.6 litres engine oil = £20 for 4l better oil with oil filter
Fork oil = £5.02 not needed now
Screws = £7.92
Washers, Nylon, 5.3x11.5 = £8.40
Nuts, 5mm = £22.96
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