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 Posted: 12:05 - 27 Aug 2014 Post subject: Guns don't kill people, 9 year olds do... |
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A nine year-old girl in the US has killed her shooting instructor by accident while being shown how to use a high-powered submachine gun.
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Shocking technique.
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With all the school shootings in the USA it's obvious the 9 year old needed an Uzi for self protection.
Or have I just quote the NRA response by accident there?*
Obviously you need a fully automatic weapon for self defence, alongside the rocket launcher for defending your home. Still in it's defence, sorry defense, America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between
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I always thought full auto wasn't allowed in the US except with certain expensive to obtain permits and weapons built and registered before certain bans. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Gotta say I'm surprised by the reaction here, I would have expected a much more liberal attitude to guns. Still, everyone's entitled and all that.
What interests me most is the fact that there seems to be a strong vibe of 'automatic weapons are pointless'. Now I agree they are overkill for home defense (I don't think anyone is buying that argument). But consider this - they are fun, something that rarely gets taken into consideration in safety arguments. So the question becomes, at what stage do you say the risk outweighs the fun to the point they should be banned? Now, that's the kind of question that will have as many answers as people, but all I can think is, there have been a lot more killed in motorcycle accidents than shooting range accidents in the states this last year.
As to this particular incident, it sucks, and the child will suffer long term most likely, but the blame rests with the instructor. ____________________ Jonathan A wrote: tart. |
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| James83 wrote: | Gotta say I'm surprised by the reaction here, I would have expected a much more liberal attitude to guns. Still, everyone's entitled and all that.
What interests me most is the fact that there seems to be a strong vibe of 'automatic weapons are pointless'. Now I agree they are overkill for home defense (I don't think anyone is buying that argument). But consider this - they are fun, something that rarely gets taken into consideration in safety arguments. So the question becomes, at what stage do you say the risk outweighs the fun to the point they should be banned? Now, that's the kind of question that will have as many answers as people, but all I can think is, there have been a lot more killed in motorcycle accidents than shooting range accidents in the states this last year.
As to this particular incident, it sucks, and the child will suffer long term most likely, but the blame rests with the instructor. |
Firstly, automatic weapons are designed to kill people. They may be fun used in other ways, but their primary raison d'être is for easily and remotely killing people. Hence you might want to be wary of who gets their hands on them.
Secondly, how many 9 year olds are killing people with motorcycles? Motorcycles have a practical use and are recognised as needing to be used by people of a certain age who have demonstrated a level of competence. Yes, kids can use them off-road but when they lose control of them they will tend to mostly bounce or occasionally hurt themselves. A motorcycle can't easily kill anyone more than about 6 feet away. ____________________
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I call fake, no-one shouting brap brap brap whilst firing in the background.  |
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Usual liberal priorities, ban guns, turn a blind eye to mass rapes by Asian men  |
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I was reading just last week on BBC news a story about blind people obtaining a license to carry concealed weapons in the USA. 'What next I thought to myself'. Turns out it was Uzi wielding nine year olds .. ____________________ Bikers make great organ donors - add your name to the register
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No charges 'cos they is licensed, innit'
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I've seen some proper skin and bones teenagers, shoot LSW's in cadets - including myself
No reason a kid can't shoot guns, but I'd say .22s, four-tens and 28 gauge might be a bit more suitable.
Letting a kid "fire" a Uzi would probably be safe if said adult is hugging around the kid with their hands controlling the weapon. In much the same way that your dad lets you "drive" a motorbike sat on the tank when you are a little kid, but really he has full control of the bars the entire time.
Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but when letting someone fire a full-auto weapon for the first time, loading mags with only 2 rounds is a pretty useful way to limit the damage should said shooter go full-retard. Once they have that down, try a mag with 3, 4, 5 rounds etc etc.
Also another reason to make sure all firing done by novice shooter is done from the prone position, as it is in cadets, it is orders of magnitudes harder to flop about in an unsafe manner when lying down on the deck as opposed to sitting/standing etc. |
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Silver lining and all that, how many 9 year olds can scare off a bully by saying you've killed someone with an uzi before Laughing
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 33 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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