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i.p.phrealy
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: VT500 won't bloody start!! Reply with quote

So, after blowing up the previous engine and installing one from Smegballs the fecker won't start.
I thought it was the battery at first, so I borrowed a set of jump leads and tried that.
nothing.
All the other electrics work, indicators, lights, horn, the rad fan (it was on a bypass switch).
but press the button, not even a click. it doesn't turn over.
the bike is in neutral, the neutral light is on, it has fresh plugs, it has oil. I checked all the fuses and they're all good.
Dafuq do I do now?
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the stand switch?

Do you have a resistance (in ohms) between the starter live terminal and earth?
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:
Check the stand switch?


there isn't one!

Taught2BCautious wrote:
Do you have a resistance (in ohms) between the starter live terminal and earth?


The multimeter is getting broken out this weekend.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your problem is not that the engine is not starting - it's that the engine is not cranking. If it cranks it may well start.

Hit it with the basics. Large cable goes from the battery to the solenoid then from the solenoid to the starter. So the solenoid has two large terminals next to each other. Make sure the bike is out of gear and short them with an old spanner. Does the bike now crank?

If yes, you have a starter control circuit issue.

If no, you have a fault in the starter or you have left the heavy earth off the engine.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Your problem is not that the engine is not starting - it's that the engine is not cranking. If it cranks it may well start.


What he said! Laughing it isn't cranking, but as the engine hasn't been span up for a few years i didn't want to try and bump it.

Pete. wrote:
Hit it with the basics. Large cable goes from the battery to the solenoid then from the solenoid to the starter. So the solenoid has two large terminals next to each other. Make sure the bike is out of gear and short them with an old spanner. Does the bike now crank?


took the jump lead and stuck one end on the starter terminal and the other to the + of the battery, no cranking.

Pete. wrote:
If yes, you have a starter control circuit issue.

If no, you have a fault in the starter or you have left the heavy earth off the engine.


Earth is connected, also tried to bypass the big earth just in case by clipping the other jump lead to the engine and the other to the - of the battery.

so the starter is probably fubar then Mad
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd fit the starter off the old engine. Sounds like yours is faulty
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or stuck.
Try the big hammer at it.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 03 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are really lucky, the rings are rusted to the bores. Have fun.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 04 Oct 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

temeluchus wrote:
if you are really lucky, the rings are rusted to the bores. Have fun.


nope, turned it over by hand to check for this.

new motor didn't have a starter motor. going to take it off, jump lead it to the car and twat it with a hammer. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 09 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

didn't need the hammer, took the starter motor off, attached it to jump leads then touched them to my car battery and the starter spun up line a good un.
hmmm...
more time next weekend to see what's up with it. it's the only free weekend I have this side of christmas.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 09 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

How to the brushes look? Have you checked the windings?
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 09 Nov 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

temeluchus wrote:
How to the brushes look? Have you checked the windings?


i'd bought new brushes just in case, I'll swap them over anyway.
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