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stranger12
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PostPosted: 05:40 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Brake pads Reply with quote

Hi guys

When you hear a robbing sound of metal on metal on ur disc, it is a sign of low brake pad , right?

I remember reading somewhere saying when pads get low they have this built in feature to make that noise and make you aware of the need to change

The pad seems to have some meatbon it still

How is that sound produced, do pads have a metal that scratches against the disc?
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PostPosted: 06:36 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No its badly maintained brakes.
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PostPosted: 07:08 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I changed the pads 2k ago to sintered ebc

and rebuild the caliper 3k ago( last year).

I haven't since then opened the caliper to clean it etc

but I know most pads have the saftey feature of making the metal to metal contact sound when they wear down to limit but don't know how it works.

my assumption is if there is any contact to the disc ( metal to metal) then that is pad so why manufactures implement this ?
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger12 wrote:


but I know most pads have the saftey feature of making the metal to metal contact sound when they wear down to limit but don't know how it work


This is more of a feature on cars and light vans. The pads have a small metal tang attached to the brake pad backplate and perpendicular to the pad material, sticking out approx 2-3mm past the front side of the brake pad backplate. This tang scrapes the swept surface of the disc when the pad material gets lower than the protruding metal tang, giving advanced warning of impending expense...

I have not come across this on bikes.....usually pad wear is indicated by a groove in the pad material which slowly disappears as the pad wears down.

Sintered pads can sometimes be noisier than organic pads as they contain small bits of soft metal to improve braking friction.
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PostPosted: 08:32 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

so in your view is it my pad or just needs cleaning ?
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be either.....

Only takes a few minutes to whip the pads out and have a look.

Why not take the pads out, if they still have more than a few mm of pad material on them, clean 'em up with.a bit of coarse emery cloth and refit using some copper/graphite grease on the backplate and abutments at the end of each pad.

If worn low.....replace pads and check caliper pistons and slider pins move freely before reassembly.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busa1340R wrote:
Only takes a few minutes to whip the pads out and have a look.


^^This.

In the time you wasted posting and waiting for replies here you could have had the calipers off and the pads out to check Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep what I do over the weekend .

I wanted to get some opinion and maybe get the pads and change any way

after I realised they are £40 a pair hence £80 I am thinking of first taking the pads off and checking Very Happy
unless someone here has £80 to donate Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shop around - £40 sounds like too much!

Change the pads when there is 3mm or less of the friction material remaining, or you run the risk of trashing the discs themselves.

You can usually see how badly the pads have worn, just by looking at them - like you shound be doing once a week.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you take the calipers off once a week Very Happy?
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stranger12 wrote:
so you take the calipers off once a week Very Happy?


Don't be daft!

Just bend over and have a look.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes do that but there are so tiny anyway that you can't know .

they are about 10 mm brand new I think but I agree and do what you say
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I've found through experience is even though you can look at what's remaining on the pad like the picture above, it doesn't account for uneven wear.

I've had pads out where the pad still has a couple mm on one side, but metal on metal on the other end.

Usually down to a sticky piston or alignment out.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefr0 wrote:
What I've found through experience is even though you can look at what's remaining on the pad like the picture above, it doesn't account for uneven wear.

I've had pads out where the pad still has a couple mm on one side, but metal on metal on the other end.

Usually down to a sticky piston or alignment out.


True.

Happens a lot on dual piston calipers if one piston is sticking, or single piston calipers if one of the slider pins is sticking.

There is no reason why you can't look at both edges of the pads, to see if one side is wearing more than the other.

You may have to bend over a bit more, move your head a little, or use a mirror - but why would you not bother to check something so important on a regular basis if your life could depend on it?

It's not rocket surgery.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 13 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are times when the pistons and seals can be nice and clean and still have a caliper that causes uneven pad wear.

I borrowed this pic but it shows a pin that is quite corroded and can cause all sorts of problems.Quite often if a caliper is allowed to get to this state then the other pin that the caliper sits on will be just as bad.

https://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx90/wingnutter/GL1500%20Goldwing%20Brake%20Pads%20Replacement/gl15pushpads.jpg

No excuse for bad maintenance Rolling Eyes Thumbs Down
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