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DrSnoosnoo
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Online change of Keeper, yes it's real Reply with quote

I commented in another thread about this:

https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle/y/no/sold-your-vehicle-privately

It means that as the current owner of a vehicle, you can put in your info and input the new owner's details. They still need the little green slip until their new V5 arrives but that's it, instant change, no need to send the V5 off for them to lose it and then try to "fine" you.

My original comment is buried in another thread so thought it may be better to post it here for a wider audience to see it.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police repost Police


https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4166992#4166992


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PostPosted: 17:57 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:


My apologies. I posted in another thread and people seemed to not know so I thought I'd try to be helpful Embarassed

Nevermind
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally right to start a thread, I was going to nudge you to do it. This is very welcome. Thumbs Up

Fire one into General Bike Chat, Found on the Net, Politics and Current Affairs and wherever else you like and I'll damn well +Informative each and every one. This is huge news, especially for Paddy who's on first name terms with DVLA prosecutors over "lost" changes of keeper. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your notification can be rejected if you don’t provide all the information.


Wait... they can pretend you didn't tell them if they want?
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
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Your notification can be rejected if you don’t provide all the information.


Wait... they can pretend you didn't tell them if they want?


But you would know instantly because you wouldn't get the confirmation email and would have some red writing somewhere, wouldn't it? That's how it should work anyway.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

N cee thirty wrote:
i wonder if this will bankcrupt the dvla , seeing as there's less chance of fines going out


They'll make twice as much £££ shafting the buyer who didn't tax it before driving home.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:


But you would know instantly because you wouldn't get the confirmation email and would have some red writing somewhere, wouldn't it? That's how it should work anyway.


Perhaps, but it's the electronic equivalent of putting their hands over their ears and saying "Lalalaalalalalalala I can't hear you" ...
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

N cee thirty wrote:
i wonder if this will bankcrupt the dvla , seeing as there's less chance of fines going out

I am properly concerned that they'll 'rethink' it because of exactly this reason.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 26 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a bike last Thursday and the new V5 was with me in Mondays post. I got the the cheque today for the remainder of tax from my last bike.
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 27 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change of keeper online? Y U NO TELL US? Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 27 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

N cee thirty wrote:
one day all the spastic dvla bods will be replaced by one Romanian worker and a big computer

Now if they'd just can VED and put a few pennies on fuel duty, that day could be tomorrow. Praying
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 27 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome thanks for this, changing owners of my bike on Sunday and never realised it can be done online!

Gone are the days of stressing waiting for a brown envelope in the post from the DVLA confirming I am not liable if the bike is potato'd
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 30 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, just tried it. Closed for the weekend............
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 30 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldie wrote:
Well, just tried it. Closed for the weekend............

The only rating I could think of was "Funny".

<DVLA-think>
"What if something goes wrong? Nobody would be around to fix it so it might become unavailable. Best turn it off before that happens."
</DVLA-think>

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PostPosted: 17:42 - 30 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just popped into the thread to say exactly the same thing Laughing

Only the DVLA could make a website that works office hours!
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 30 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I guess that they'll be closed for the bank holiday too. I think that'll I'll just send off the V5 in the "old fashioned" way although tempted to do both...imagine the confusion Very Happy They probably have a new fine for such disruptive behaviour, on top of the grand if you don't send it in at all.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 30 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldie wrote:
tempted to do both...imagine the confusion Very Happy

Must! Be! Done!

While you're at it, what the legislation actually says is that we have to inform the Secretary of State (for Transport).

patrick.mcloughlin.mp@parliament.uk

Do eeeeeeet.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 30 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Oldie wrote:
tempted to do both...imagine the confusion Very Happy

Must! Be! Done!

While you're at it, what the legislation actually says is that we have to inform the Secretary of State (for Transport).

patrick.mcloughlin.mp@parliament.uk

Do eeeeeeet.


Looks like someone else fancied going direct to the Secretary of State but was advised not to.....

I understand that they have tried that, but it seems entirely specious since it could not reasonably be expected that Parliament would require everyone selling a vehicle would personally take documents to the SoS, as I believe a judge has pointed out to them.

Yes, a michievious person could do all three but I think that I'll just finish my cocoa and retire for the evening Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 30 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, but my understanding is that the High Court has ruled that the "deliver" parts means what it says and that Interpretations Act 1978 doesn't apply.

If delivery is literal, but the recipient is not, then Parliament or the courts are an ass. Or perhaps both.

Which, to be fair, we already knew.
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PostPosted: 05:39 - 31 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many years ago I succesfully used the 1889 Interpretation Act as a defence for my late father in law during a hearing regarding a rating appeal on his house. The Council claimed never to have received his Notice of Appeal and the (junior) QC representing the Council, naturally enough, advised the chairman of the Court to summarily dismiss the case.

I then piped up, quoting said Act, and stated that the mere fact that my father in law had actually posted the appeal deemed it to have been delivered. I am no lawyer but had mischievously donned a crisp suit and silver tie that day to add some gravitas (and make it look like I was a young legal bod) and this was rewarded when the QC, much to my amusement, turned to the Chairman and requested that "we might adjourn in order that my learned friend and I may consult" - no joking, these were his actual words Mr. Green Mr QC then took me aside and asked me to explain to him what the Act actually said about this particular point and then returned to confirm that he was removing his objection to the appeal, which we then won!

Now, I had obviously never heard of this Act before but an old surveyor I knew said to try it and see what happened, and it worked.

The 100 quid or so that was saved was duly spent over several merry evenings Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 31 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Only the DVLA could make a website that works office hours!
Possibly not .....

I have a licence which needs renewing on Medical grounds every 3 years, previous 6 years (2 renewals) no problem, medical condition unchanged. What with doctors funking up (not sending reply back, then sending reply with a question not answered), I haven't had a driving licence in over two months! I can drive but couldn't hire a car when I went on holiday, insurance company on renewal threw its toys out the pram when I explained I couldn't send a copy of my licence etc. etc.

Checking the view your driving licence screen and seeing 'Your Full Driving Licence has Expired' really makes me miserable.

Anyway, called DVLA on Friday, the DVLA 'contact' centre is closed until Wednesday due to industrial action ....

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/customers-warned-of-dvla-contact-centre-industrial-action

Hmmm, long bank holiday weekend?
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