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PostPosted: 17:14 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Its not vertical, I swear. Reply with quote

My Bike (2015 R1200GS) feels like its leaning when riding. I noticed it more when I had the missus on the back, sorry the missus pointed out I didn't look like I was in the middle of the bike and when I shifted it felt very wrong. The bars don't look like they line up with the fairing either. Being shaft drive I can't adjust the rear wheel so... Help, please?
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

its only when riding to be honest. Is there some kind of wheel alignment check I can do?
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twisted forks in yokes?
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugger I hope not, only done 2.5k.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but I have done some very light off roading wonder if Ive hit too many bumps for it. Tyre pressures were fine last time I checked. Unless the TPG is now lying.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

De-twisting forks is not big deal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSunBRB6-r8
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt you'd twist a telelever.

Out of interest, do you have a back problem?
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 21 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They use telelever suspension (to prevent the bike diving down at the front when braking. The bike will drop sort of parallel with the road surface.) so the 'forks' only serve are guides for the front wheel.
Check the alignment 1st with string between the rear and front wheels.
Check both side and extrapolate the difference. It should be almost 0ยบ diff between L&R. (you need to make some allowance for the difference in tyre width.)

Google checking bike wheel alignment. Some phaph with a length of wood but string is simpler and easier to find in your hoose. Smile
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

First bike I ever rode, on my CBT, felt like it was pulling to the left and needed some force to get it to turn right. Instructor agreed, saying the forks were twisted, and swapped the bike.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments, I shall get busy this weekend. Now I know what to look for I won't be putting it off anymore
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

temeluchus wrote:
Doubt you'd twist a telelever.

Out of interest, do you have a back problem?


26 and healthy so nope...
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackbosh wrote:
temeluchus wrote:
Doubt you'd twist a telelever.

Out of interest, do you have a back problem?


26 and healthy so nope...


Oh well, that rules out Stephen Hawking using a sock account to post on here. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 19:39 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 arms longer than the other though, if that helps

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PostPosted: 20:10 - 22 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

you may just be going mad.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 23 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

temeluchus wrote:
you may just be going mad.


Quite possibly.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 24 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i remember rightly, bmws run off set alignment on some models.
so the rear can be as far as 25mm off set from center to the left

bmw got a bit lazy and couldnt be fucked changing the engine/swing arm design when adding fatter wheels to the rear, so just spaced out the wheel.

normally you dont notice it though
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 24 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the torque reaction of the motor meant that you always ride slightly on-the-cock?
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 24 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I thought the torque reaction of the motor meant that you always ride slightly on-the-cock?


Would the gyroscopic effect of the wheels not cancel that out in normal riding?
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 24 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get someone else to ride it. You ride round all sorts of issues before noticing something is wrong.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 24 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
MarJay wrote:
I thought the torque reaction of the motor meant that you always ride slightly on-the-cock?


Would the gyroscopic effect of the wheels not cancel that out in normal riding?


I've ridden a Rocket 3, and I didn't notice it at anything above say 20mph, if you are stopped and you rev you can feel it kick and if you are going slow and smash the throttle open you feel it then too but not in normal riding.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 24 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote:
MarJay wrote:
I thought the torque reaction of the motor meant that you always ride slightly on-the-cock?


Would the gyroscopic effect of the wheels not cancel that out in normal riding?


I had two R1200GS there is no effect of 'torque' reaction that would cause the bike to track.

If the frame/wheels are out of alignment then the bike will try to follow the alignment.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 25 Nov 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

you don't get the "jacking" on the paralever bikes,
only the monolever or twin shock bikes,

ive never noticed the mis alignment to show up when you are riding.
my money is on the wheel being twisted in the forks/yokes
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