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Hi
Been out today, clattery valves not withstanding.
Its a '97 CBR900RR Fireblade. About 30,000 miles.
The shims in question are the inlets. 4 of them (no 3 no. 4 cyl.) are marked 2.10, measured as such on my micrometer.
These are tight, minimal clearance.
The next available smaller size is 2.05. This gives a slack fitting number 4 feeler guage. I will call these metric thous because no-one seems to know what the meteric number is.... miili cintimetres?
Therefore, logic would dictate that I need a shim of 2.07 thickness to give the correct clearance of 3 of these things.
As I can't seem to source a 2.07 shim, my original question was, can I cut up a number 2 feeler gauge to take up the slack?
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Only thing I can find is:
Intake: 0.13--0.19 mm
Exhaust:0.19--0.25 mm
I cannot find anything that refers to '3'?
I can honesty say that I have never heard of a number 4 feeler gauge.
0.1mm is a tenth and 0.01mm is a hundredth. 0.001mm is a thousanth of a millimetre or a micron. There you go, someone does know what they are called . ____________________ https://www.metacafe.com/watch/1972097/how_to_behave_on_a_forum/ |
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| jjdugen wrote: | Hi
Been out today, clattery valves not withstanding.
Its a '97 CBR900RR Fireblade. About 30,000 miles.
The shims in question are the inlets. 4 of them (no 3 no. 4 cyl.) are marked 2.10, measured as such on my micrometer.
These are tight, minimal clearance.
The next available smaller size is 2.05. This gives a slack fitting number 4 feeler guage. I will call these metric thous because no-one seems to know what the meteric number is.... miili cintimetres?
Therefore, logic would dictate that I need a shim of 2.07 thickness to give the correct clearance of 3 of these things.
As I can't seem to source a 2.07 shim, my original question was, can I cut up a number 2 feeler gauge to take up the slack?
Vote out, bring back furlongs and chains, threepeny bits and tanners, pints and gills, its what won us two world wars and the world cup, all downhill since then! |
"Thou" is only ever used to denote "thousandths of an inch". Don't use it for metric terminology because it'll confuse things. A thousandth of a mm is actually a micrometer but you can't use that either because it'll confuse people as to whether you are talking about a unit of measure or a tool for measuring.
The difference of 0.02 you get from .07 to .05 is not enough to make any audible difference as far as valve clearances go. Something you have done is wrong. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Any news on this. Intrigued to find out where this rattle has come from. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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are they over or under bucket shims? ____________________ Turbocharged drag thing / project death weapon / GK73A
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Its a '97 CBR900RR Fireblade.
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...And there, Sir, is your problem!
My 'blades of a similar age were both complete and utter C***ts to get the shims right. I think it had something to do with the fact that unless your torque wrench is absolutely spot on every time you pop the cams back on then that miniscule difference between stopping when the wrench goes click and stopping 5 degrees after it makes the difference between the same shim being tight, right or loose, don't ask me why it is but it was the only feasible explanation for getting different readings with the same shim...in, out, in, out, shake it all about, mutter, mutter, mutter.
All I can say is that I had those bloody shims in and out so many times in the end I said 'f**k it, that'll do'.
EDIT: And it was that way every time I took the bloody readings and decided to try to sort it out, both bikes gave the same problem. |
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