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| How aggressively do you ride if it's been raining, compared to normal conditions? |
| 100%, same as if it were dry. |
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6% |
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| 90% |
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1% |
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| 80% |
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11% |
[ 10 ] |
| 70% |
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25% |
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| 60% |
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14% |
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| 50% |
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21% |
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| 40% |
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5% |
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| 30% |
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10% |
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| 20% |
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0% |
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| 10% |
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4% |
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| Lord Percy |
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 Posted: 11:35 - 29 Sep 2016 Post subject: How aggressive do you ride in the wet? |
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When the road's wet I go into ultra-safe mode, mainly when cornering where I barely dare to lean at all.
I'm certain I could push it a bit more but after 10 years of being a skater boy I see wet tarmac and relate it to the loss of grip on polyurethane skateboard wheels, which is far worse than the loss of grip on rubber bike tyres.
Instead of testing the limits myself and risking a crash, I figured it would be best to get some general consensus from BCF.
Not that I want to take the piss and/or kill myself; I just wonder how my reaction to wet conditions compares to that of everyone else.
Thoughts/experiences welcome or just answer the poll.
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I clicked 70%.
In the wet I tend to go almost as fast as normal in most places, but I cut back a lot on filtering and overtakes or other manoeuvres that increase the likelihood of something unexpected happening. ____________________ Bikers make great organ donors - add your name to the register
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I'll take the option not listed, depends on the bike.
MSX125 with City Grip winters, doesn't change much, as it grips all the time. Some of the roundabouts I can go much quicker in the wet, than in the dry on a bigger more powerful bike.
Other bikes, between 50-70% depending on the weather.
My first bike a CBF125, at times 10%, skinny crappy tyres and the first sign of any damp and it became dangerous. ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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| stevo as b4 wrote: | On good tarmac free from road paint, mud, oil, leaves etc |
I saw a patch of that, once!
I'm even more careful in the wet than the dry, particularly on roundabouts. The GS in particular has had a few wobbles and weaves thanks to all the rainbow unicorn vomit sloshing around. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I'm terrible in the wet most of the time. Goes back to having truly horriffic tyres on my first few bikes and repeatedly falling off on wet patches on the road.
I carry on fine, and my new tyres are fantastic in the wet. Then something slips or shimmies, even slightly and I totally lose my mojo for the rest of the ride. I comfort brake, 50p corners, run wide, wobble, death grip, feather the throttle, trail brake, hold my breath round corners, grip the bike with my knees etc. Pretty much everything but foot dab (althought I see that's a thing now). ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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 Posted: 14:02 - 29 Sep 2016 Post subject: Re: How aggressive do you ride in the wet? |
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Voted 70%
That's for when it's proper wet, or damp but drying.
When it's just rained after a long spell of summer sunshine I often reduce it a bit more because greasy y'all.
Modern tyres grip in the wet, as long as road conditions allow. I'm pretty obsessive about spotting manhole covers and white lines rather than slowing down per say.
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The only change I make is greater braking distances and a lot more gentle with the brakes, a lot more gentle tipping in. Just generally treating the controls like they're made of glass.
I still filter etc in the wet. ____________________ My Flickr |
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I'm 'tempted' to tick 100%... question is too subjective for the scale suggested.
Check wet lap times vs dry in road-racing, and they are usually pretty close, within 10% or so, often less. Maybe slightly flattered in the higher classes where they may run slicks in the dry and wets in the wet; or alternative grades of 'production' tyres; but in the rankings they often don't have that luxuary, and run a control tyre in all weathers, and still stay in that sort of window.
On the road..... shouldn't be riding 'that' aggressively to start with.... Public roads are usually that much crapper and less consistent, and road tyres compromised for life and 'all-round' conditions, AND you have all the added risks and hazards and inconsistancies of pop-up pedestrians, un-emmission control live-stock; uncovered skip-trucks, etc etc etc....
A 'bit' of rain, shouldn't 'really' need to see very much greater degree of caution applied to riding in the dry; if I do apply any, it will generally be due to reduced visibility, in worse weather, than from worries of diminished traction.
It's a variation of the summer vs winter debate, where it's oft asked how much 'slower' you ride in the winter to in the summer, that is to my mind a bit backwards.
Question would be better put the other way about, and slightly re-phrased; "How much 'harder' do you ride; how much more 'blase' are you of the risks in the dry/summer, are you than in the wet/winter?"
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I ride like a granny with a full colostomy bag anyway, so not an awful lot different. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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for me, the wet (even if its just drizzled) makes me scared. I've already had one hard fall and don't want to repeat it. I'm no stranger to falling - i've ridden bmx for years and skated the streets for over a decade but im not getting any younger and certainly dont bounce as well as i used to
its mainly in the corners where i'm cautious. any corner, no matter how sharp i shit myself, death grip, squeeze my knees and pray I still filter in the wet/rain, just a bit slower than usual(which is probably too fast to start with). Braking is obvs done much sooner than in the dry
Teflon-Mike makes a very good point though its amazing just how much my attitude changes to corners on a dry day |
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Old Thread Alert!
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