Mechanic started my Bike while draining engine oil!!!!!

[ABR1997]

Hi guys I'm new here, I've been riding for almost 5 years, I have anxiety and OCD, my bike is a Royal Enfield Thunderbird 500X, recently I went for an oil change and during the oil change when the oil was draining half way, I told my mechanic to adjust the throttle cable and make it softer, he immediately turned the ignition On and started the bike, I panicked and I immediately turned off the engine 5 seconds later, I've been told to never start a vehicle without engine oil and my mechanic started it for 5 seconds, I'm really worried that my bike might be damaged because he started the bike without engine oil, he told me that it was actually okay because some engine oil was stuck on top of the engine because he was draining it and it came out half, it was still draining and half of the engine oil had already dropped on the pan below but some oil was still in the sump, since I have OCD I assume that my bike might be slightly damaged, is my bike damaged? He started the bike while draining the engine oil half way and the bike was running for 5 seconds till I shut it off, I'm really worried guys! Help me.

[doggone]

It would be fine for a minute or two, he would be wanting to clear the oil pump of old oil.
Oil is ... oily and coats surfaces for a long time.
Riding down the road is very different to a minute ticking over.

[ABR1997]

[Pete.]

Don't worry - half full of oil is a natural running condition for an Enfield
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[gbrand42]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Repeating things again and again isnt going to change the fact that 5 seconds on tickover with a low oil level isn't going to hurt an Enfield.

The fact you are ocd doesn't in any way affect any potential damage to the engine.

Are you just upset that we haven't given the reply you want?
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Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[ABR1997]

[ABR1997]

[smokin joe]

You do seem to worry a lot.

You sure you're not suffering from OCD?

[Riejufixing]

[A100man]

1) Your bike is fine.. Don't worry.

If in future if some thing else happens rember everyting can be fixed.
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[Evil Hans]

[mentalboy]

[WD Forte]

Look, I know you're really upset now. Why don't you sit down and take a stress pill and think things over?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Or you could count to ten. Every time you touch a door handle....
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[Easy-X]

Suffers from anxiety... buys a motorbike

Well, don't ever buy a 2-stroke! They don't even have an oil system as such* and you just keep your fingers crossed enough enters the system mixed in with the petrol.

The good news is you could drain all the oil and there'll be still enough lurking in there on the surfaces to make little odds to all but the most highly strung engines. For example, in my user manual it says I need 2.3L for an oil change or 2.6L if I also change the oil filter cartridge. And yet the manufacturer states it has a total oil capacity of 2.7L... huh?

Yes, there's 100ml stuck in there somewhere. You'll never get it out unless you strip the engine and clean all the components or run it till it gets hot, 5 seconds isn't it by a long chalk. I'd say between the lurking oil, the filter and the "half drained" you mention there was probably another litre still in there.

Here's the other thing: what's the oil for? Seriously. If it were just for lubrication the humble 2-stroke ekes out a life of mere millilitres and does okay so what's up with the litres of oil in a 4-stroke?! Okay so unless you have a pre-unit Enfield half of it will keep the gearbox from shredding itself but the rest is actually for cooling regardless of whether you have an actual oil rad and even to some extent on water cooled bikes. The engine didn't get hot in 5 seconds.

tl;dr IMHO bike had more than enough oil to idle without any possibility of damage and neither got hot enough or put under enough load for it to be an issue.

*For combustion, the gear box has it's own separate lubrication system.
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[Hong Kong Phooey]

I think you conveyed the suffering of anxiety really well in your original post, by not having a full stop until right near the end, it forced me to read it, in my own head, in one single breath, and it was quite stress inducing, and made me anxious even though there's no personal peril involved.

AND.BREATHE.

O.C.D. I doubt it, as you didn't put the periods between the initialism as in this paragraph.

The bike will be fine, probably . Best prepare a solicitor and brief them just in case

It's a few seconds, in an unstressed engine, under no load. Your post is a dichotomy of that.

Don't worry, the sun will be here soon and we can all get out on our bikes to escape ourselves.
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Good job everybody.





I’ll give you £100 for the wreck.

[xX-Alex-Xx]

[Raffles]

[Pete.]

One good thing for the OP is that unlike most bikes Royal Enfields have roller bearing big-ends (most bikes are shell bearing). The big-end is one of the the first things to suffer from catastrophic oil failure but his bike being roller bearing would probably run for a long while on idle and a fair good while under load even if all the oil were drained out.

I would not be going back to that mechanic though. Running the engine whilst draining the oil is stupid and unnecessary. What little is left in the pump is not going to make a difference to the oil change.
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[The Shaggy D.A.]

[jeffyjeff]

ABR1997, Maybe you should consider trading your Royal Enfield for a Honda Cub. Performance is about the same, and the Cub is indestructable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaeKrqJJqm0
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[wr6133]

Everyone is winding you up, that engine is going to explode in a ball of fire while you ride.

I'll do you a favour and give you £3.50 for it (£4.50 if it has a 5 speed box).

[xX-Alex-Xx]