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PostPosted: 15:19 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Taking a test on your own bike Reply with quote

I'm a bit nervous, been doing my car driving license and thought it was about time I got on with my bike license. Anyhoo, in short, I've got my RS125 being fixed, when it's done I was thinking of doing my test on it, has anyone else done theirs on a mini-sports? I'll practise my u-turns and emergency stops, what else do I need to remember other than riding normally? and would it be better to pay more and borrow? I kinda like the cheaper option
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can do U turns on an RS 125 well enough to garuntee you could do it on your test then I'll pay for your test booking!

I tried it, way too hard so decided to do it on the schools cg125, much easier.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I passed my CBT and full test on a RS125, You walk the bike around to show the bike can make it, It just takes practice.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my test on my NS125. The U turn is always preceeded by the instructor asking you to turn the bike by pushing it around. If it won't make it around the turn then they choose another place to do a U turn.

I had the advantage of being used to the bike though.

Make sure you clean it beforehand though, they like to see that you look after the bike.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are confident riding that bike and can manage a u-turn on it then I don't see a problem. Does anyone know if you have to have a mainstand to do the 'pushing' part of the test?

Remember to get all your head-checks and lifesavers in coming up to junctions.

Other 'set' manouvers include pushing the bike through a u-turn, angle start, hill start and slow ride (at walking pace in a straight line whilst the instructor walks alongside you for if they aren't entirely happy with your u-turn but it isn't bad enough to fail for).
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need a centre stand.

If you can do the U-turn go for it, I did my test on my own bike, although it wasn't a sports rep.

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PostPosted: 15:37 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my test repeatedly on an NS125R. The U turns etc weren't a problem.

Contrary to popular belief, you won't fail for putting your foot down. You fail for not being in control of the bike. I think I trailed my foot for most of the turn.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed a u-turn when i got lost finding my friends house a couple months ago, did it without thinking... the problem is when i tihnk about it Rolling Eyes I'll take it out and see what I can do, just wanted to know some people could pass without paying £100 a day on a rented bike! I really don't have that kind of money!

Shaun wrote:
If you can do U turns on an RS 125 well enough to garuntee you could do it on your test then I'll pay for your test booking!


I may hold you to that Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do your test on a 125 doesn't that mean you can only ride 125's on a full license then? I thought you had to ride a bike over 48bhp or something to get a full 'any bike' license?
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I think you'll be restricted to 33bhp for 2 years if doing it on a 125.


I find the RS is okay for turns in the road but it can be a bit tricky. I found the Honda cityfly (I think it was that) which I used on my CBT more manouverable.

I reckon you should be okay doing it on the RS though. Just get shit loads of practice in one quite side roads. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hired a cg for the test instead of using the NSR.
I regreted it as soon as I turned the first corner. The cg felt like a easyrider and I kept stalling it since you have to turn the throttle so much more etc etc.

If you're used to the RS and ride it alot and have been using it for lessons I reckon it's a good bet.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allia - Don't do it on your RS mate. The gear ratios aren't cut out for it and a U Turn will be much harder than the standard test bikes.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got my test on friday and im doin it on me rs125, i feel more confident riding it than the cg125.


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PostPosted: 20:57 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alli is only 20 so she can't do her Direct Access for a few months, by which time she will have to redo her CBT and theory (i think).
She does not have a lot of cash, so hiring is an expense I figured she wouldn't need. Remember she has 3 months to practice, so surely she would be able to get pretty damn good at the low speed manouvers in this time.

I don't think it is worth her letting the CBT etc expire without giving it a go. If she then wants to do direct access she could do another test then (without needing CBT etc). I presume it would only cost her £45 for the test this way.

Does anyone think this would be a really bad idea?
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

She should at least get a few lessons in so she knows what she needs to improve on!
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

natv4 wrote:
Alli is only 20 so she can't do her Direct Access for a few months, by which time she will have to redo her CBT and theory (i think).
She does not have a lot of cash, so hiring is an expense I figured she wouldn't need. Remember she has 3 months to practice, so surely she would be able to get pretty damn good at the low speed manouvers in this time.

I don't think it is worth her letting the CBT etc expire without giving it a go. If she then wants to do direct access she could do another test then (without needing CBT etc). I presume it would only cost her £45 for the test this way.

Does anyone think this would be a really bad idea?


Nope, I think it is a good idea, if the hire of a bike is 100 quid a day, that equalls four hours lessons.

So let's look at the evidence. Using a CG125 on your test or four hours of training to get really good on the bike you have. I know which I would choose.

I am confident that I could waltz a u-turn on a sports bike in my sleep, no reason why someone who is used to riding one can't providing they put the road time in.

Alliamc, What you need to do is practice riding really slowly at every oppertunity in the same 'slipping the clutch and back brake' manner you do on the test for the u-turn. So as you approach traffic lights or the back of a line of traffic, go into 'crawl mode'. Make it a game to see if you can approach a red light dead slow for the last few yards, keep your feet on the pegs until it changes and ride off again without actually stopping fully (don't do it to that extent on your test but putting in a little 'slow riding' before you stop at the line shows control) . The same with stop-starting traffic, see if you can keep up a constant slow pace whilst the cars are moving forwards a few yards, stopping, then moving again.

With enough practice this 'slow mode' becomes automatic and all you have to do on the test is think about where you are going and not how to ride the bike.

Motorcycle examiners get hard for people who can ride their bike rediculously slowly in heavy traffic in a controlled manner with no wobbling as it demonstrates excellent clutch, throttle and brake control. Anyone can ride a bike in a straight line at 50mph, it takes good control to ride the same bike in a straight line at walking pace.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 09 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i could not pass a bike test on a sports bike, speed mainly

but slow manovers are too much hassle
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 10 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had an Rs125 i just payed for 1 days training and test on an SR125
U-turns are easy and i passed 1st time with 3 minors

The place that did my test is in Wallington
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 10 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Personally I doubt i could do a U turn on an RS. They may well get you to walk it round, but if that means you land up doing a U turn with the bars on the lock stops the whole way round then it is very difficult (I find) not to put your foot down.

Compare that the a CG125 which can easily do a U turn on a FAR smaller road.

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PostPosted: 01:05 - 10 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call me a n00b, but when taking your bike test, does it have to be on geared bike? Question Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 10 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but if you do it on an automatic, that is all you are allowed to ride.
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 12 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
natv4 wrote:
Alli is only 20 so she can't do her Direct Access for a few months, by which time she will have to redo her CBT and theory (i think).
She does not have a lot of cash, so hiring is an expense I figured she wouldn't need. Remember she has 3 months to practice, so surely she would be able to get pretty damn good at the low speed manouvers in this time.

I don't think it is worth her letting the CBT etc expire without giving it a go. If she then wants to do direct access she could do another test then (without needing CBT etc). I presume it would only cost her £45 for the test this way.

Does anyone think this would be a really bad idea?


Nope, I think it is a good idea, if the hire of a bike is 100 quid a day, that equalls four hours lessons.

So let's look at the evidence. Using a CG125 on your test or four hours of training to get really good on the bike you have. I know which I would choose.

I am confident that I could waltz a u-turn on a sports bike in my sleep, no reason why someone who is used to riding one can't providing they put the road time in.

Alliamc, What you need to do is practice riding really slowly at every oppertunity in the same 'slipping the clutch and back brake' manner you do on the test for the u-turn. So as you approach traffic lights or the back of a line of traffic, go into 'crawl mode'. Make it a game to see if you can approach a red light dead slow for the last few yards, keep your feet on the pegs until it changes and ride off again without actually stopping fully (don't do it to that extent on your test but putting in a little 'slow riding' before you stop at the line shows control) . The same with stop-starting traffic, see if you can keep up a constant slow pace whilst the cars are moving forwards a few yards, stopping, then moving again.

With enough practice this 'slow mode' becomes automatic and all you have to do on the test is think about where you are going and not how to ride the bike.

Motorcycle examiners get hard for people who can ride their bike rediculously slowly in heavy traffic in a controlled manner with no wobbling as it demonstrates excellent clutch, throttle and brake control. Anyone can ride a bike in a straight line at 50mph, it takes good control to ride the same bike in a straight line at walking pace.


This slow riding sounds like what nat does all the time, but he's usually just playing his game of how far can you ride without putting your feet down. Anyhoo, I think I'm gonna do it on my RS, I know I've done u-turns on it before, it's not a difficult bike to ride and I've heard from enough people that have done their test on their own bikes that it is very possible, and I'll be saving a small fortune, which in my wages is a BIG fortune! Razz
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 12 Apr 2005    Post subject: ermmmmmmmmm Reply with quote

1. get some proper lessons
2. cost £25 per hour including bike hire and insurance
3. £100 per day bike hire blimey who was that?????
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 12 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get some lessons with a trainer thats willing to teach for a small fee or free.

£25.00 per hour lessons are fine for those that can afford that much, but you can find lessons per hour cheaper if you look around.

Save some money and use your own bike.

Alliamc ...... the offer still stands, let me know when you want to take me up on my offer.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 12 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: ermmmmmmmmm Reply with quote

biketeacherdave wrote:
1. get some proper lessons
2. cost £25 per hour including bike hire and insurance
3. £100 per day bike hire blimey who was that?????


I would rather pay my petrol and sit on a road with a friend for a few hours each day. As said before, I don't really have much money lying around to pay for £25/hour. I have done lessons in the past on a rented bike, I'd like to do it on my own bike now.
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