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| alliamc |
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 alliamc Nearly there...

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 Posted: 15:19 - 09 Apr 2005 Post subject: Taking a test on your own bike |
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I'm a bit nervous, been doing my car driving license and thought it was about time I got on with my bike license. Anyhoo, in short, I've got my RS125 being fixed, when it's done I was thinking of doing my test on it, has anyone else done theirs on a mini-sports? I'll practise my u-turns and emergency stops, what else do I need to remember other than riding normally? and would it be better to pay more and borrow? I kinda like the cheaper option ____________________ Alli x
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| DynaMight |
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I passed my CBT and full test on a RS125, You walk the bike around to show the bike can make it, It just takes practice. ____________________ My bikes are at https://www.bikepics.com/members/dynamight/ |
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If you are confident riding that bike and can manage a u-turn on it then I don't see a problem. Does anyone know if you have to have a mainstand to do the 'pushing' part of the test?
Remember to get all your head-checks and lifesavers in coming up to junctions.
Other 'set' manouvers include pushing the bike through a u-turn, angle start, hill start and slow ride (at walking pace in a straight line whilst the instructor walks alongside you for if they aren't entirely happy with your u-turn but it isn't bad enough to fail for). ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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If you do your test on a 125 doesn't that mean you can only ride 125's on a full license then? I thought you had to ride a bike over 48bhp or something to get a full 'any bike' license? ____________________ Current bike: VTR1000F Firestorm. Previous: Firestorm (written off) - XJ600 Divvy - NSR125 - DT125 and a load of offroaders. |
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Yeah, I think you'll be restricted to 33bhp for 2 years if doing it on a 125.
I find the RS is okay for turns in the road but it can be a bit tricky. I found the Honda cityfly (I think it was that) which I used on my CBT more manouverable.
I reckon you should be okay doing it on the RS though. Just get shit loads of practice in one quite side roads.  |
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I hired a cg for the test instead of using the NSR.
I regreted it as soon as I turned the first corner. The cg felt like a easyrider and I kept stalling it since you have to turn the throttle so much more etc etc.
If you're used to the RS and ride it alot and have been using it for lessons I reckon it's a good bet. ____________________ Enjoy Life There's Plenty of Time to be Dead
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| natv4 |
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Alli is only 20 so she can't do her Direct Access for a few months, by which time she will have to redo her CBT and theory (i think).
She does not have a lot of cash, so hiring is an expense I figured she wouldn't need. Remember she has 3 months to practice, so surely she would be able to get pretty damn good at the low speed manouvers in this time.
I don't think it is worth her letting the CBT etc expire without giving it a go. If she then wants to do direct access she could do another test then (without needing CBT etc). I presume it would only cost her £45 for the test this way.
Does anyone think this would be a really bad idea? ____________________ Travelling around the world...a bit at a time. Where am I now? / Visit my BLOG
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| natv4 wrote: | Alli is only 20 so she can't do her Direct Access for a few months, by which time she will have to redo her CBT and theory (i think).
She does not have a lot of cash, so hiring is an expense I figured she wouldn't need. Remember she has 3 months to practice, so surely she would be able to get pretty damn good at the low speed manouvers in this time.
I don't think it is worth her letting the CBT etc expire without giving it a go. If she then wants to do direct access she could do another test then (without needing CBT etc). I presume it would only cost her £45 for the test this way.
Does anyone think this would be a really bad idea? |
Nope, I think it is a good idea, if the hire of a bike is 100 quid a day, that equalls four hours lessons.
So let's look at the evidence. Using a CG125 on your test or four hours of training to get really good on the bike you have. I know which I would choose.
I am confident that I could waltz a u-turn on a sports bike in my sleep, no reason why someone who is used to riding one can't providing they put the road time in.
Alliamc, What you need to do is practice riding really slowly at every oppertunity in the same 'slipping the clutch and back brake' manner you do on the test for the u-turn. So as you approach traffic lights or the back of a line of traffic, go into 'crawl mode'. Make it a game to see if you can approach a red light dead slow for the last few yards, keep your feet on the pegs until it changes and ride off again without actually stopping fully (don't do it to that extent on your test but putting in a little 'slow riding' before you stop at the line shows control) . The same with stop-starting traffic, see if you can keep up a constant slow pace whilst the cars are moving forwards a few yards, stopping, then moving again.
With enough practice this 'slow mode' becomes automatic and all you have to do on the test is think about where you are going and not how to ride the bike.
Motorcycle examiners get hard for people who can ride their bike rediculously slowly in heavy traffic in a controlled manner with no wobbling as it demonstrates excellent clutch, throttle and brake control. Anyone can ride a bike in a straight line at 50mph, it takes good control to ride the same bike in a straight line at walking pace. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Call me a n00b, but when taking your bike test, does it have to be on geared bike?  ____________________ chaff mans random tingz on loot
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| stinkwheel wrote: | | natv4 wrote: | Alli is only 20 so she can't do her Direct Access for a few months, by which time she will have to redo her CBT and theory (i think).
She does not have a lot of cash, so hiring is an expense I figured she wouldn't need. Remember she has 3 months to practice, so surely she would be able to get pretty damn good at the low speed manouvers in this time.
I don't think it is worth her letting the CBT etc expire without giving it a go. If she then wants to do direct access she could do another test then (without needing CBT etc). I presume it would only cost her £45 for the test this way.
Does anyone think this would be a really bad idea? |
Nope, I think it is a good idea, if the hire of a bike is 100 quid a day, that equalls four hours lessons.
So let's look at the evidence. Using a CG125 on your test or four hours of training to get really good on the bike you have. I know which I would choose.
I am confident that I could waltz a u-turn on a sports bike in my sleep, no reason why someone who is used to riding one can't providing they put the road time in.
Alliamc, What you need to do is practice riding really slowly at every oppertunity in the same 'slipping the clutch and back brake' manner you do on the test for the u-turn. So as you approach traffic lights or the back of a line of traffic, go into 'crawl mode'. Make it a game to see if you can approach a red light dead slow for the last few yards, keep your feet on the pegs until it changes and ride off again without actually stopping fully (don't do it to that extent on your test but putting in a little 'slow riding' before you stop at the line shows control) . The same with stop-starting traffic, see if you can keep up a constant slow pace whilst the cars are moving forwards a few yards, stopping, then moving again.
With enough practice this 'slow mode' becomes automatic and all you have to do on the test is think about where you are going and not how to ride the bike.
Motorcycle examiners get hard for people who can ride their bike rediculously slowly in heavy traffic in a controlled manner with no wobbling as it demonstrates excellent clutch, throttle and brake control. Anyone can ride a bike in a straight line at 50mph, it takes good control to ride the same bike in a straight line at walking pace. |
This slow riding sounds like what nat does all the time, but he's usually just playing his game of how far can you ride without putting your feet down. Anyhoo, I think I'm gonna do it on my RS, I know I've done u-turns on it before, it's not a difficult bike to ride and I've heard from enough people that have done their test on their own bikes that it is very possible, and I'll be saving a small fortune, which in my wages is a BIG fortune!  ____________________ Alli x
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1. get some proper lessons
2. cost £25 per hour including bike hire and insurance
3. £100 per day bike hire blimey who was that????? ____________________ www.dgridertraining.co.uk |
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