Motorhispania Furia indicators not flashing

[AzzA1990]

Hello everyone it's been a while since I have posted on here, I am trying to repair an old 2002 motorhispania furia 50 for my nephew who has just done his cbt so he is itching to ride it however the bike is out of m.o.t, the only issue I see is that the indicators do not flash, now I believe the voltage regulator on these bikes is a combined unit with the indicator flasher relay (correct me if I'm wrong) I have searched high and low all over the interweb and I can not find a direct replacement, I have found other similar but they do not have the same number of terminals, i am trying to think of a way to maybe add in a separate flasher relay but I'm not sure how I would go about this because the bike doesn't have a battery from factory

I'm hoping there may be someone familiar with these bikes that is a bit electrical savvy!

Much appreciated!

Thanks

[Nobby the Bastard]

It wouldn't be part of the voltage regulator.

Are you sure that there's no battery?
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[AzzA1990]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Wht make you think thats the wiring diagram for the bike? Please post a photo of the flasher unit that youve taken on the bike.

Has someone put led flashers on it when its designed for bulb?
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[WD Forte]

looks pretty simple to me
the legend would help but it's easy enough to work out what's what
without it
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[Nobby the Bastard]

My reading of it is the flasher unit regulates the power to the indiccator bulbs so that the speed stays constant becausse there's no regulation anywhere else.

I'm somewhat confused because every site I've looked at for that bike recommends a battery for them.
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[Easy-X]

I've seen regulator/flasher combos on this very forum:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=308759
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[Nobby the Bastard]

The setup you linked to is a regrec for the whole system whereas the op's system is just for the flasher unit.
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[AzzA1990]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Photo of flasher unit please. Does it have bulb or led indicators?
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[AzzA1990]

[Nobby the Bastard]

That's definately the flasher unit.

I''ll ask for the third time - does it have bulb or led indicators?
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[jeffyjeff]

Appears to be a regulator rectifier for a single-phase charging system. If not, why would a flasher unit have terminal designation L1 and L2?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

[AzzA1990]

[Easy-X]

12V AC flasher units are quite common on old scooters. Would adding a 12V Zener diode be sufficient to protect it from the variable voltage coming from the stator?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Do you have a multimeter?

Have you checked every bulb is good including the dash indicator one?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

[AzzA1990]

[Nobby the Bastard]

In that case look at the wattage of the head and tail light

Headlight should be 25w and 25w (dipped and main) and rear should be 5w/21W (rear and brake)

If they are wrong then it's draining too much power, non-electronic flasher units speed are very dependant on the amount of electricity flowing through them.

If the bulbs are the correct wattage and the indicator bulbs are also right wattage (2*10W each side and 1.2 W dash) I'd suspect the stator not giving out enough.
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[AzzA1990]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Fitting ledss would likely fuck up the flasher unit even more because your typical flasher unit depends on both power in and drain to flash at the corrrect speed. LEDs actually act as if they are infinate resistance so dont pull any power.

You could get round that by using resistors in line to add load but then you will be back to the original problem.

There are ways leds could be used but I really dont think you have the expertise to do them.

That headlight bulb is your problem.

You will find it's quite dim afterwards and will wish that you'd bought a bike with a proper charging circuit and battery so it can have reasonable headlights and indicators at the same time.
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[A100man]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Good point.
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