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PostPosted: 14:22 - 07 Jul 2025    Post subject: Re: UK employment law Reply with quote

lingeringstink wrote:
If I'm not mistaken the rules regarding employment for non-UK persons is that if you're an immigrant, and by that I mean a legal one that's played by all the rules and is in the country legally, you can not work for two years.

During that time you're also scrutinised to be of good character blah blah blah and after that two year period you are legally allowed to seek employment in the UK. Illegal immigrants do not have the right to work.

It would appear to me that all those illegal immigrants doing food delivery and the places that employ them are breaking the law. If this is the case you have to ask who's not doing their fucking job to enforce UK law. Not only is this detrimental to the public good (by having un-vetted criminals working in public) and damaging to the legal UK workforce it's also entirely against UK law, and even your (un)elected political leaders are not exempt from the law, so if you can identify the culprits allowing or partaking in illegal employment in the UK (including politicians and/or law enforcement) then perhaps a polite meeting with them involving hot tar and feathers should be arranged.


Well said. Brutal honesty and truth at it's finest !
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 07 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

police state
/pʊˈliːs ˌsteɪt,ˈpliːs ˌsteɪt/

noun

a totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens' activities.

Definitionally that's the UK as our police certainly are political and what laws they will or will not enforce are seemingly arbitrary.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 07 Jul 2025    Post subject: Re: UK employment law Reply with quote

lingeringstink wrote:


It would appear to me that all those illegal immigrants doing food delivery and the places that employ them are breaking the law. If this is the case you have to ask who's not doing their fucking job to enforce UK law. Not only is this detrimental to the public good (by having un-vetted criminals working in public) and damaging to the legal UK workforce it's also entirely against UK law, and even your (un)elected political leaders are not exempt from the law, so if you can identify the culprits allowing or partaking in illegal employment in the UK (including politicians and/or law enforcement) then perhaps a polite meeting with them involving hot tar and feathers should be arranged.


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PostPosted: 15:59 - 12 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you haven't noticed, takeaway places like KFC and McDonalds have an NFC tag on the wall for delivery riders to check in...

https://image.b2b.deliveroo.com/lib/fe331171756404757c1475/m/1/Rider_Checkin_Hero_240924.png

Note the translations: Portuguese* and Hindi Thinking

*Brazilian according to Google Translate
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 13 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was still a motorcycle courier in the last dwindling days of it's rule there was an influx of generally Brazilians (but many other kind of Not British folks as well) who were often in the UK on student or tourist visas (no, you CAN'T legally seek employment Mr WhateverYourNameIs) who would rent or buy a bike on the never-never and do courier work until the taxman or immigration started to catch up with them and then they'd ditch the un-paid-for bike and leg it back to Bongo-Bongo Land or wherever they hailed from.

The courier firms didn't care. You were considered self employed so any employment legalities and tax shenanigans were up to the individual riders and anyway the courier firms could pay them under the table cash in hand at bargain rates if they asked nicely. It meant there was an unlimited supply of dogsbodies for these failing courier companies to use as their empire collapsed. The office knobs didn't care. They squirrelled away money for early retirement and the "couriers" fled the country without so much as a stern talking to. Basically the biggest loser in the game was the Great British Public who were oblivious to it all.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 13 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

lingeringstink wrote:
When I was still a motorcycle courier in the last dwindling days of it's rule


So that industry is dead now is it ???
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 13 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF68 wrote:
lingeringstink wrote:
When I was still a motorcycle courier in the last dwindling days of it's rule


So that industry is dead now is it ???


Doesn't sickpup still do some courier work?

Anyway, it's a tiny fraction of what there used to be and the stuff that needs to be couriered around is pretty important so they don't use just anyone, only reliable known people - so I've been told by a mate who does that sort of thing. Blood bank and medical crap and the like.
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