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hedjehog
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Rust Reply with quote

Hi all,

My CG is rusty in many places. Some on the frame is quite heavy. I'd like to

1. remove the rust
2. paint over
3. protect all areas

so:

1. Should I wait until the weather's nicer, or not?
2. Can the same procedure be used for the exhaust, and the frame, and the fasteners?
3. Is a wire brush the best way to remove the rust?
4. Paint. Searching on here, Stinkwheel has recommended stove paint for the exhaust (I'm quite positive about rattishness Smile ). Is heat-proof paint suitable for other bits? Or what's a better recommendation? And Scottoil FS365 for protection?

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Cheers,

Jack (hedjehog)
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bidman
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey these answers should be a of some help
1. Should I wait until the weather's nicer, or not? No the sooner the better before it spreads anymore and you want it protected over the wet months really.

2. Can the same procedure be used for the exhaust, and the frame, and the fasteners? Yes as long as you use high temperature paint for the exhaust thats fine, but try getting some silver colour because black will look a bit daft on your chrome pipe Wink

3. Is a wire brush the best way to remove the rust? A wire brush or any abrasive material really, as long as its just suface rust your removing if its gone right through the frame may reuire grinding out and re-welding Confused

4. Paint? Halfords sell some good high temperature paint for 5.99 a can, available in different colours, its good stuff and protects as well. I recommend as a protection material, old engine oil. cover the exhaust and any rusty engine parts in old engine oil then once it heats up it will provide a protective layer over any metal. It looks dull but protects Thumbs Up

Hope that helps Thumbs Up, Dan
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the grim reaper
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

One note of caution with the high temperature paint. Make sure that whatever you are painting is COMPLETELY free of grease, dust, loose rust or any other conatminates. If you don't the paint doesn't adhere properly and just peels off as soon as the exhaust gets hot. DAMHIK.

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PostPosted: 18:54 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not underestimate the properties of hammerite 'smoothrite'. Very forgiving when applied by brush.
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romperstomper...
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the hammered effect works best Thumbs Up
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ZRX61
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diluted phosphoric acid removes rust really well... Thumbs Up
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romperstomper...
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
Diluted phosphoric acid removes rust really well... Thumbs Up


where do you get that from ?
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ZRX61
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

romperstomper1 wrote:
ZRX61 wrote:
Diluted phosphoric acid removes rust really well... Thumbs Up


where do you get that from ?

Auotpaint suppliers, failing that use Muracic acid from pool supply shops, but dilute it to about 10% acid. & ferfuxsake keep it away from aluminium & paint.
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romperstomper...
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Thumbs Up
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hedjehog
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the acid idea (no nonsense grass roots). Just as good I bet as specialist rust remover but you don't pay for all the weird additives which, like expensive bike oil, probably aren't significant to the CG or me. But I reckon I'll go with a wire brush since you can paint hammerite (or similar) on surface rust when the loose stuff is removed.

romperstomper1 wrote:
I find the hammered effect works best Thumbs Up

I had a look at the hammerite site and only then did I realise that romperstomper1 wasn't making a suggestion involving inebriation as the solution to concerns about corrosion. Man. Idea

Eh?

Jack (hedjehog)

P.S. 'Hammered' does look nicest I think
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map
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would suggst Hammerite Rust Remover Gel or Hammerite Kurust.

Have used the latter and found it ok. Turns rust black and then can be painted over. However, only used on small areas and careful not to get onto paintwork.

I think the Rust Remover is for larger areas.

Info on Kurust here - click me.
Rust Remover info here - click me.
Found they also do a dip (info here) that's useful for nuts, bolts, etc. Not used this either but will look into it.

HTH Thumbs Up
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romperstomper...
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hedjehog wrote:
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P.S. 'Hammered' does look nicest I think


it also seems to keep the rust at bay for longer Thumbs Up
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BFG
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Hammerite Kurust.


Used this for years - excellent stuff. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

For small components, this is the ultimate rust removal:
https://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:

Muracic acid.


Also sold as concrete prep.
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mchaggis
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 01 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
Diluted phosphoric acid removes rust really well... Thumbs Up

https://www.janicewise.com/aj2050a.jpg

Laughing

Should do the trick, though you'd have the sugar to worry about instead of the grease.
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hedjehog
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 02 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed yes, McHaggis Exclamation :


https://img492.imageshack.us/img492/7551/colabike24rg.jpg

Surprised Laughing

Thanks for all the info folks!

Jack (hedjehog)
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