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White Noise
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: URGENT - Help a forum member (yokogeri) Reply with quote

Hi all
need urgent help for yokogeri (scott) he is stuck in southampton, on his way back from his sheep shagging trip in wales.
he has ridden back from wales fine and gone to see a mate in southampton, he has just left his mates place and the the bike has died at a junction, just spoken to him on the phone, it seems that the bike is just ticking over when he has pressed the starter and doesn't want to catch. tried with choke fully on and off and the bike doesn't want to play ball and start. it sounds like the bike has either a electrical or fuel problem. yes he does have fuel in the bike, but can't figure out what could have caused it so suddenly as the bike was runing fine for the rest of his trip. the only think it maybe due to is the fact its very wet but doult this myself. so we are trying to figure out whats going on and things to try to get him home. battery getting flatter as we try so not a good situation
can you help?
plus does anyone have the breakdown number for motorcycle direct?
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably a silly question but has he tried bump starting it?
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White Noise
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
Probably a silly question but has he tried bump starting it?


aye he has with no joy. he is in the process of walking it back to his mates to get him to push him on it.
but his mate has no battery charge at his! Confused
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

try these 08451 285 285.
(might not work though Neutral ) Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just spoken to scott, probably going to go and get him & his bike.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had my bike cut out on my in the pissing wet, think it was water in the fuel... Kicked it over a few times and fired up fine again.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
Just spoken to scott, probably going to go and get him & his bike.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Check the fuel pump is running. Also check the side stand switch (although I would expect that to stop it cranking over on the starter motor as well).

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:23 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
Just spoken to scott, probably going to go and get him & his bike.


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PostPosted: 22:24 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Check the fuel pump is running


how?
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bike does he have, is it carbs/injection etc?

Has/can he:

Checked fuses
hear the fuel pump
is there fuel at the carb
does he have a spark
checked sidestand bypass (if fitted)
checked kill switch (need multimeter)
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

White Noise wrote:
how?
Cheers
WN


Listen for it Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, does it have an alarm, perhaps the immobilser has activated.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
Listen for it Laughing


i mean a particular sound, fool! Laughing
i.e clicking on yamahas when ignition key is turned
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DucatiEVO wrote:
What bike does he have, is it carbs/injection etc?


It's a carb R6.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DucatiEVO wrote:
Also, does it have an alarm, perhaps the immobilser has activated.


would of thought that would not let the starter motor kick in, aswell as the kickstand switch.
BTW bikes a carbed R6
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Yamaha fuel pumps are normally pulse pumps. They tick loudly. However might be better to just hold it as you should feel it.

Think the bikes should trigger the pump for a short while when you turn the ignition on (about 5 seconds I think, but they only work up to a certain pressure so when the carbs are full they cut off).

Numerous other things it can be, but pump is one thing that can be traced by the side of the road. Had odd problems with the Bimota fuel pump once.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:44 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'd check for a spark (does it sound like it's trying to fire, or just turning over)?

Then check for fuel from the pump and go from there. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DucatiEVO wrote:
Ok, I'd check for a spark (does it sound like it's trying to fire, or just turning over)?

Then check for fuel from the pump and go from there. Thumbs Up


from what i can hear on the phone sounds like it was just turning over, the fuel pump is working (ticking being heard on ignition on). so could be a lack of spark, though quite hard to tell as the bikes got its fairing on
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spark plugs are a night mare to get to on the R6, requires removing the tank, airbox etc..
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got an alarm? I've heard of the rain getting into cheapish ones causing the alarm to cut out, thus causing the whole bike to fail Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he has pressed the kill switch he is gonna get a slap.

Otherwise I'd try WD40-ing everything you can get at.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonnay wrote:
Got an alarm? I've heard of the rain getting into cheapish ones causing the alarm to cut out, thus causing the whole bike to fail Shocked


as said before if it was the alarm fecking everything up i would expect the starter motor not to engage
WN
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If he has pressed the kill switch he is gonna get a slap.


your telling me! Laughing
but i have asked him that and he says no!
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 08 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminds me of a time i was at the BP once buying some engine oil. and this bloke on an xr650 appears, his bike covered in mud up 2 the fuel tank. i could just about read the bike model. he proceeded to the jet wash, and theres me thinking, sureley not, surely he wouldnt. and he did. went and got his token, then used the foam mop all over the bike, then blasted it with the jet. now i thought here comes trouble this will not start. lol, but it never got that far, he uses the tissues by the pumps to dry his seat off. and then he goes to reach for his keys. oh dear. it seems he had left them in the barrels, and the combination of being scrubbed and blasted, had knocked them into the metal caged resovoir underneath.
i had left before he retrieved them.

I think if anything THAT deserves a slap around the face.
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