Are restrictor certificates a must

[bristol_sports_bikes]

Are restrictor certificates a must?
do you have to fit a 33bhp kit if your not old enough?
do insurance companys check/ask? can you lie?
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honda vfr nc30 1991

[mrchips]

Get a certificate/dyno. Even if you take them out, you still need your certificate.
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Northern Irish? www.nibikers.com

[kb-zxr]

Aparantly certifcates are not a legal requirement, although some insurance companies request it. F.I will shaft you £150 for essentially 4 washers and a piece of paper. Legally all you need is 20p worth of metal the same shape and size.

By law your bike must be <33bhp if you have had your license less than two years and took the test before your 21st birthday.

Newer bikes can have throttle restrictions or CDI restrictions. Older bikes have washers in the carbs. Technically speaking anyway is legal as long as its correct power. I reckon dynoing a 4cyl 60bhp bike with 2 HT leads disconnected is legal

[jok]

[sickpup]

[G]

[SoND]

So long as you arent going around at 160mph you're hardly going to attract enough attention for them to think it isnt restricted.
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Go back to bed - You have no rights - "Streetfighters ~ Mainstream motorcycling's crackwhore sister."

[Chriss]

[ISLAND GIRL]

My insurance company requested a photo copy of my restriction certificate issued by the garage that fitted it before issuing my insurance certificate, they were happy to send me just the cover note so as I could pick up the bike mind
A sticker is also placed inside underneath my seat to say its restricted in the case of ever being pulled over. If I were to get the bike derestricted my insurance will not be valid in the event of an accident if based on speed, not sure I want to chance it although I know many bikers do
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Live on the Isle of Wight and ride a CBR600F

[Chriss]

Are you fully comprehensive Island Girl?
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TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old.

[ISLAND GIRL]

Yes fully comp
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Live on the Isle of Wight and ride a CBR600F

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

[0ni]

Ok from someone who has actually ridden an unrestricted bike on a restricted license with insurance.

I have been insured by 2 different insurers on the 600. The first insurer allowed me to state a restricter kit as modifications but then never asked for proof. The second (and most recent) not only has not asked for proof of insurance but never even realised it was necessary.

I have been pulled over by the police for 140+ with horte to prove it. They checked my insurance and license and never mentioned it.

Mileage may vary.

Do not pay for a restriction certificate, get a dyno done instead - don't fund FI international.
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Its a lovely day, just wait until some bastard spoils it.

[Groove]

When i came off my ZXR 250 (Not restricted, although i had certificate from previous owner) the traffic police where called to cover over the mess from my bike (oil etc)

They asked the usual stuff, asked me how long id been riding (just curious i guess?) and i said a month. They gave me a producer for MOT, insurance and somthing else but didnt mention restrictions at all.

They were friendly too
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|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[Andy C]

when i rang for 9insurance i rang 12 companies, im 17...

1 mentioned certifacate and only 1 other said its a must, the rest didnt meation it

im going to get a certifcate at some stage though
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99 RS125 --> 02 SV650s --> 03 Speed Four --> 92 RXS100 --> 93 CB400sf --> 01 CB600f Hornet

[ancientd]

[quote="Chriss
Sorry Jok, that's rubbish. They cover you third party only/TPFT if they found out you're riding without restrictors. Under the Road Traffic Act, they must still cover the third party. They can come to you to recover the costs though.

[/quote]

Sorry to say but you are way off there. Insurance companies are not controlled but the Road Traffic act, and it is totally up to them whether they cover you or not. On all insurance certificates there is a condition in black and white which says," Provided the driver is the holder of a license to drive said vehicle, and is not disqualified from driving". Clearly if you are on a restricted license then you do not hold a license to ride an unrestricted bike and as such the Insurance cover is invalidated by the rider. If an insurance company calls for an investigation after an accident and discovers that the bike has been de restricted they will not pay out, and you won't get a refund of your insurance premium either.
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I ride 3 bikes, a Thundercat, an FZRexup 1000 Streetfighter and a Jawa 350 Combo, something for all seasons.

[bish777]

No.

It is the POLICE's perogative to check your bike power output if they suspect it to be over.

Bare in mind that the limit is at the CRANK not the rear wheel.
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GSXR1100J

[ISLAND GIRL]

So do I chance it later then being de-restricted, how many of you here ride non restricted bikes when you should be?? When I took mine away from the garage matey there even said that most take them off once they get down the road! I've always been such a good girl
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Live on the Isle of Wight and ride a CBR600F

[sam.ashburner]

I'm 18 and have ridden restricted and unrestricted.

When 17 I had a 600 that I bought restrictors for and installed them myself. I was paranoid that I'd get asked about the power at some point (through inexperience) so I got a dyno done and the bike came out at 27bhp. I kept the graph at home just in case. That evening I took the restrictors out.

My reasoning was:
a) if I get pulled over for whatever reason there's no way the police are going to take the bike and put it on a dyno,
b) if I have a crash the bike isn't going to be in a condition to be dynoed so how will insurance company ever know?
c) i spoke to a traffic cop I know and he thought rider's under 21 were restricted to 400cc (I didn't correct him )

I would say the main reason to get insurance would be to get tax because it'll be more of a headache (I've only ever been pulled over once because I only taxed it recently and police's database hadn't been updated).

I now ride a ZZR400 and have never bothered to restrict it. It's been dynoed at 45rwhp. I usually ride sedately, with a pillion, and I can't see any reason to restrict it. I've had three ins policies on larger bikes and have not been asked for any kind of proof of restriction ever.

[ISLAND GIRL]

I am 35 and ride well sensibly......at the moment, new bike, newly passed just a month ago now so likely hood of me getting pulled over is slim but there is always that chance isnt there for some other reason, who knows although after reading comments here I am being swayed more and more to de restricting just so I have a bit more power between my legs when I do need it, umm I wonder.
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Live on the Isle of Wight and ride a CBR600F

[Groove]

17, had license since October, never been restricted

Had to show both parts of license down the police station after spill on 250, the woman wrote down all she needed and gave it back.

Im pretty sure it says on the license (paper part) <25kw or somthing, so it was there if she wanted to say anything...
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|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[brooky]

I'm 19 and passed my test roughly 2 months ago , I ride a TZR250 @ 45bhp and I didn't have any problems insuring my bike and when I had to go to the police station to give my documents in .

The Officer at the desk said he didnt understand all the different types of licenses and restrictions as they didnt have any offical guidelines in whats what.

That made me laugh.

[sickpup]

[Chriss]

Sorry to bring this back up, but I've just noticed it.