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grant965
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Hiding bad welds - wrap? Reply with quote

Hi, made a dual exhaust link pipe for my bike, Tacked it myself but got a mate, who said he could weld !!, to weld it for me. Its come back in hell of a state, massive welds on every seal. Its never going to look clean so im going to need something to cover it, what would you guys recommend that is cheap and looks OK/better/
thanks, Grant
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pics?
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually hide my crappy welding by grinding the worst off with a Dremel and then plastering it with spray paint.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry that I have nothing useful to add for hiding it, but:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=243160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25#3153397 Whistle
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, I would grind it down but it would reveal even more holes so It would take forever to get it finally sorted.
Check the pic I attached, It would take many days and discs to
smooth that out.
I was thinking something like this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exhaust-Manifold-Downpipe-Heat-Wrap-10-mtr-High-Quality-Ceramic-mirror-foil-Uk-/260962902378?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cc299e16a
Or even just the dull black version.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhaust wrap just traps water causing the pipes to rust, if it is mild steel it wont last long. Stainless might fare better.


The best thing to do is remake it and take it so someone who can weld properly.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Exhaust wrap just traps water causing the pipes to rust, if it is mild steel it wont last long. Stainless might fare better.


The best thing to do is remake it and take it so someone who can weld properly.

Im just tidying it up because I will be selling it so not interested in long term affects. Its full stainless steele if it makes a difference
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't imagine that's even gas tight.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant weld and I will freely admit that I have never tried to but I bet I could do a better job than that.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will look shite either way. It will probably also leak and mess up the fuelling too.


What bike is it for?
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

he had too much power and wire feed on, did he put stainless wire in the welder and use pure argon?

and how much did you pay for that?
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

drake1994 wrote:
he had too much power and wire feed on, did he put stainless wire in the welder and use pure argon?



Looks like it was welded using two metal coat hangers and plug socket Laughing .
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:45 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Re: Hiding bad welds - wrap? Reply with quote

You can get them ceramic coated, but doubt it'd be cheaper than getting the job done properly.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats just going to be a remake, should of given this job to the turbo maker aka CHR15!
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus fucking christ Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

That really is an abomination. Can also virtually guarantee that will be full of pin-holes, as he's just blobbed it up all the way round. Was anything prepped? Or did he just leave him self too big a gap and couldn't fill it? Personally, I'd of TIG'ed that.

Laughing

Best thing to with that would be slit through all the joins, clean them up, and give to someone who has a clue.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

it does all looked mig'ed welded, its difficult and for that matter, even at my work place, anything that is stainless is TIG'ed welded.

I'm not saying it can't be done using a MIG welder but as the picture shows its bloody hard!

Welding mild steel using a mig is far easier, with the correct setup of course
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did he weld it with a potato?
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a bird has shat on it Smile
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Did he weld it with a potato?


Looks like it could have been a baked potato with cheese and beans.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

grant965 wrote:
Im just tidying it up because I will be selling it so not interested in long term affects. Its full stainless steele if it makes a difference


You'd be better off selling it with no exhaust. Anyone who sees that mess on there is going to assume the rest of the bike has suffered similar bodgery.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the join near where it says "2011" you can see what looks like 3 holes there. Sorry to say but i think you would be better off scrapping that Sad
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrap it and start again, and give your mate a slap. There's no point in buying expensive stainless tubing then contaminating it with mild steel filler or cooking it like that abortion, it will rust faster than a mild steel system. Stainless exhausts should be TIG welded if they need a reasonable finish. Don't buy stainless tubing from exhaust suppliers, find a supplier of 'dairy tube' which is available in 304 or 316 grades and much cheaper, look for 1.6mm wall thickness. Take your time forming the joints, they should be a perfect fit, and do not put a prep on the ends. A good fit up can be TIG welded without filler wire (autogenous weld) and should leave a smooth weld surface requiring no dressing at all. Any welding on stainless tubing should also be done with a back purge running.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 19 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like its been attacked by a bunch of blind gorillas wielding banana-powered stick welders.

I'll give you a quid for it?
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