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TurbodTurtle
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Paddock Stands Reply with quote

Hi,

Can someone tell me how paddock stands work? How do I ensure they will work on my bike? I have a 2007 ZX6r.

Also, the bike is kept outside under a cover so ideally ones that are not overly expensive as they may rust/get scratched over time.

I have seen a few different types but unsure what I need.

Sorry if this is a silly question

Thanks
Ashley
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you want paddock stands for? Maintenance on the bike?
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattJ wrote:
What do you want paddock stands for? Maintenance on the bike?


Thats right, just to help me with the chain and get the tires off the floor while it stands in the cold.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The front is usually two prongs, one sits under the fork whilst the other goes behind it, it's just a case of making sure they are located properly and pushing down on the handle.

Rear stands come in cup or hook form, both are easy to use. If you have bobbins on your swingsrm you can use the hook version, fairly self explanatory just hook the bobbins then push the handle down or if you have the cup type stand, locate them properly under the swingsrm and push down the handle.

When you first give it a go it might be worth getting a mate to hold the bike level for you but once you've done it a few times you should be fine to do it on your own.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashley6 wrote:
and get the tires off the floor while it stands in the cold.


You're planning on leaving the bike on its paddock stands at all times?
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a rear one that you would be able to use without modifying the bike in any way. It just sits under the swingarm and lifts it up that way.

https://www.sticky-stuff.co.uk/images/new%20rear%20paddock%20stand.jpg

And this is one for the front where you just rest the bottom of the forks and lift it up that way

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/product_images/bike_tek_red_front_paddock_stand.jpg

You can also fit bobbins to your bike so the paddock stands hook onto those and lift them up to avoid damaging your bike
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a rear one like the red one above for sale if you're anywhere near manchester
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to leave it on paddocks, i'd be a bit worried doing so to be honest some of them can give way occasionly, its rare but if you're with the bike working on it at least theres a good chance to stop it smashing down. I've had it happen once with my set in a few years.

I prefer adapting the rear stand with paddock hooks
https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/63007?r=GS&gclid=CLzk2ZK3j7wCFUnjwgodqmQAEw

Then you can lift it hooking them under bobbins
https://www.evotech-performance.com/2007-2035/long-kawasaki-paddock-stand-crash-protector-bobbins-m10-1-25-thread

Most generic ones will be fine for your bike. You can get sets off ebay for as little as 30 quid or so. I got mine new for about 55 IIRC. A rear ones particularly useful for chain maintenance. Unless you're going to be removing the wheels yourself a front one might not be nescessary.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashley6 wrote:
MattJ wrote:
What do you want paddock stands for? Maintenance on the bike?


Thats right, just to help me with the chain and get the tires off the floor while it stands in the cold.


If you want to keep the bike up on a stand for long periods then consider an Abba stand. They're easier to use single handed without worrying about dropping the bike and they're a lot more stable. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one of these recently, good for the price:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIKETEK-UNIVERSAL-SERIES-3-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-LIGHTWEIGHT-REAR-PADDOCK-STAND-/400521891623

also on ebay deal at the moment:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Oxford-Heavy-Duty-Rear-Paddock-Stand-/190804375525
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also keep my zx6r on paddock stands at all times, with the blaintently obvious exception of when I am riding it.
But I use paddock bobbins for the rear, and a headstock paddock stand for the front so the forks are not under load. Mind you I do have it in a warm garage - I doubt I'd paddock them overnight outdoors, that seems odd to me. Idk why - just seems like a lot of work for not much gain. My ninja isn't in use everyday so is hooked up to an optimiser also.
Idk OP- whatever floats your boat I guess.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a paddock stand that sits underneath my rear bobbins Thumbs Up
Didn't like the "swingarm" lift style paddock stands. I wouldn't fancy leaving it unattended for long periods of time though.
In future I'll get myself an Abba stand, I find getting my bike onto a paddock stand by myself a little awkward Confused
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=44

AHHH I want one of these....
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenchWench wrote:
https://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=44

AHHH I want one of these....


i'm not sure I'd trust the band used to hold it in the positions.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the ABBA stand kit, not the sky lift, but the one that allows you to raise the front wheel with the tie down. ER6 had no front end on it for about 3 weeks over christmas whilst I did the forks. Never moved an inch.

I've said it before, I'm a fool, I managed it. Laughing

My first paddock stand which is red and similar to those knocking about looks like it will twist and buckle, I don't really trust it. Wouldn't leave it on it.
This would be much better https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIKETEK-HEAVY-DUTY-REAR-ALUMINIUM-BOX-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-PADDOCK-STAND-/281040478582?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item416f516176
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
BenchWench wrote:
https://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=44

AHHH I want one of these....


i'm not sure I'd trust the band used to hold it in the positions.


Me neither Shocked

I'm more interested in the less complicated version
(Edit: Tried & Tested by Wots Laughing )

https://imageshack.us/a/img13/7873/bikeonstand.jpg

Couple of sandbags on the rear tyre & I could raise the front tyre off the ground aswell Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kit, just an add-on to a standard abba, but I bought it as a whole kit.

https://www.abbastands.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=42

Solid as a rock. Most difficult part for me was the strap as I didn't know how the ratchet straps work. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's on my purchase list, I hate my ABBA super bike front lift thingy, bike feels so unstable on it.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike fell over on a paddock stand smashing the tank and rear fairing. I was gutted the bike was 9 years old and spotless, when I bought it, I had owned it 4 days when this happened.
Lesson learnt though always make sure the surface is flat and if it has adjustable bits make sure there done up tight before using
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattJ wrote:
This is a rear one that you would be able to use without modifying the bike in any way. It just sits under the swingarm and lifts it up that way.

https://www.sticky-stuff.co.uk/images/new%20rear%20paddock%20stand.jpg

And this is one for the front where you just rest the bottom of the forks and lift it up that way

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/product_images/bike_tek_red_front_paddock_stand.jpg

You can also fit bobbins to your bike so the paddock stands hook onto those and lift them up to avoid damaging your bike




I'd glue some old inner tube rubber into the cups that hold the swingarm, holds it a little firmer and stops it scratching the swingarm, either that or use the bobbin type. Also I've never thought that type of front stand is very stable, I prefer the type with a pin that slots in the headstock tube.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow those abba stands look cool. I'm trying to find a used one, some on eBay but most seem to be collection only. I don't want to pay £100 for one but £50-£60 isn't too bad Smile

Thanks for all the replies. I might get some bobbins anyway as they look quite good Cool
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashley6 wrote:
Wow those abba stands look cool. I'm trying to find a used one, some on eBay but most seem to be collection only. I don't want to pay £100 for one but £50-£60 isn't too bad Smile

Thanks for all the replies. I might get some bobbins anyway as they look quite good Cool


They're solidly constructed and hence, heavy. Mr. Green

If you do buy one secondhand, you'll need to order the correct fitting kit for your bike (unless you really luck out that is).
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Ashley6 wrote:
Wow those abba stands look cool. I'm trying to find a used one, some on eBay but most seem to be collection only. I don't want to pay £100 for one but £50-£60 isn't too bad Smile

Thanks for all the replies. I might get some bobbins anyway as they look quite good Cool


They're solidly constructed and hence, heavy. Mr. Green

If you do buy one secondhand, you'll need to order the correct fitting kit for your bike (unless you really luck out that is).


There is one on eBay that he used to have a 'ninja' on, but doesn't say which. He lives a long way and won't post but have asked if he'll accept if i book a courier Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get one secondhand and don't have the right fitting kit for your bike, go to the Abba site and find the right kit number for your bike. Then do an ebay search for that kit number and you might find one cheaper, as someone might've switched bikes and will be selling off their old kit.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 21 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what you want mate, I have the exact same for my 07' hornet,

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-REAR-UNIVERSAL-PADDOCK-STAND-KAWASAKI-ZX6R-ZX-6R-NINJA-PDSTAND-/130769571930?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1e7279505a

Never had an issue, use it to do my chain all the time, lovely bit of kit for the price.

You will need someone to hold the bike up straight so you can slot it in though incase you didn't realise.

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