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carl1990
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 29 May 2006    Post subject: kick start problem Reply with quote

hello,

this isn`t the greatest way i wanted to join this forum, but i have a problem with my bike Embarassed

i have one of those midi bike things, but its running a 4 stroke 70cc honda c70 replica engine.

the problem i have is that my kick start is solid, you try and kick down to start the bike and it is stuck, you could put all of your weight on it and it wont move.

is it something serious, or is it just it maybe needs some more oil ??

can anyone help me as it is the only way i can start my bike

thanks

carl Very Happy
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lee125
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 29 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you push it along when it is in gear? cos if you cant it might be seized Thumbs Up
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carl1990
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 29 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a semi automatic, so no clutch, but i have never been able to push it along in gear even before the kick start messed up.

p.s - I had it running fine the night before, not just idling, it was going fine
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the grim reaper
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only experience I have with a stuck kickstart was when I seized the bottom end on my MTX125. Same thing, I could stand on the lever and it wouldn't budge. Mind you, when I got the main bearing out, it wasn't a surprise, the dust seal had come loose and wound itself in and out of the bearings.

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carl1990
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the help!

i think the only thing i can do is a strip down and rebuild, put some new oil in and change to a new plug.


thanks

carl
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

might be a bit of your piston gone down the crank shaft happend to me
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to find out if its the starting gear or engine thats seized before you go any further. My guess is if you remove the left engine casing there will be a nut that you can turn over the engine with. If you can you need a manual and take a look at the starting gear. If you cant turn the engine over using the nut.....ouch!

Just a thought, have you taken the kickstart off yet and put it back on? Just incase of a broken return spring.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, welcome to the forum Thumbs Up
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carl1990
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 30 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rit wrote:

Just a thought, have you taken the kickstart off yet and put it back on? Just incase of a broken return spring.


yes, i have removed the right hand side engine casing to reveal clutch, fly wheel kick start spring ect... but i cannot get any further as the clutch blocks the entrance from the right hand casing...

as for kick start it moves down around half way, but no further, and goes back up fine :?: :!:
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 31 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to try turning the end of the crank and see if the engine will turn over. If it does, chances are the fault lies in the kickstart area (good). If it doesn't, your engine is seized for some reason (bad).

Take the left hand side cover off. You will see the magneto rotor (a big round metal thing). This is attached to the end of the crank, try to turn it round (make sure the ignition is switched off, the engine might start!).
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 31 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum, when this happened to a bike i know, it was because of some "Rubbish" in the clutch plate, strip it out.
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carl1990
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 31 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exclamation i took the left hand casing off and found the magneto rotor with a little nut in the middle, turned the nut, my engine turned over so i put the casing back on and my bike now kicks, but doesn`t start... Rolling Eyes

i think i need to clean the carb out as it is flooding...


thanks for the help

carl Smile
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 31 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you give it a RIGHT GOOD clean out! Nothing worse than it getting all "Gooey"
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carl1990
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 31 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jenks wrote:
Make sure you give it a RIGHT GOOD clean out! Nothing worse than it getting all "Gooey"



carb cleaner i use when its open Wink
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