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PostPosted: 11:47 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Cheap hot hatches Reply with quote

Looking for an old school hot hatch, doesn't have to be stupidly quick but nippy enough and relatively low maintenance. Budget is around £1k, the two obvious options are:

205 GTI 1.6

Mk2 Golf GTI 1.8

Any other recommendations?
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:59 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Mini's but they're overpriced for what they are.

All the others you suggested are too slow, needs a bit of go to it. The build quality of my friends Fiat Punto 1.6 Sporting was awful, other Fiats seem to follow this trend.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackdim wrote:
I like Mini's but they're overpriced for what they are.

All the others you suggested are too slow, needs a bit of go to it. The build quality of my friends Fiat Punto 1.6 Sporting was awful, other Fiats seem to follow this trend.



Couldn't disagree more. Early puntos didn't have nice plastics in the interiors so felt a bit japanese, the later MK2 was a big step up, you should be able to find a nice HGT(133bhp) for less than £1k now. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not a 1.9 GTi?

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1989-PEUGEOT-205-GTI-1-9-GREY-GUNMETAL-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ250512025119QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item3a53ae261f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Or Renault Clio 16v/Williams/RSi? Wouldn't go near a R5 GTT that sells for a grand if I were you, it will be a money pit.

Edit: Perhaps not a Williams, there's a low mileage one on eBay for £5k Shocked !
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Mk2 Golf is the only choice really. Go for an 8v one, they are not much slower than the 16 valvers but are much much cheaper and a piece of piss to work on.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

106 GTi... It shifts, it's fun and it's cheap! Plus it don't look half bad!
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used to have a convertible 205 and it was great fun to drive. It was a project which we were doing up and parts were very cheap (ie lockset <£100, two new front wings £60).
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most underrated and badass hot hatch ever made!

Suzuki Swift GTi

Most will have never seen one before nd they don't half shift! If you do look at one just check it for rot.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renault 5 turbo
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:
Renault 5 turbo

Genuine one though lol.
Id love a car with a decent size engine and a turbo, gotta save up though haha.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:36 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I think the Mk2 Golf is the only choice really. Go for an 8v one, they are not much slower than the 16 valvers but are much much cheaper and a piece of piss to work on.


Gospel Thumbs Up

I've had a ridiculous number of cars and this was undoubtably the best of the bunch. Mine had admittedly been lowered but it went round corners like one of those light cycles from tron.

Maximum amount of fun from the minimum amount of spend and it looks the dogs danglies to boot.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 11 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps a bit leftfield, but how about a Ford Puma 1.7? Will dust off a MK2 Goof without much problem.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I think the Mk2 Golf is the only choice really. Go for an 8v one, they are not much slower than the 16 valvers but are much much cheaper and a piece of piss to work on.


Agreed, then you can always save up some cash and get the v6 engine or the g60 supercharged lump thrown in, of course that will strip you of every penny you've ever earned in the long run but it'll be real fun to drive (while it works).
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PostPosted: 08:23 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for a Peugeot 306 gti or a Renault Clio Sport.

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Agreed, then you can always save up some cash and get the v6 engine or the g60 supercharged lump thrown in, of course that will strip you of every penny you've ever earned in the long run but it'll be real fun to drive (while it works).


I friend had one of those, it's been rebored, uprated etc and is constantly off the road, but when working to it's full potential it was pushing 260BHP on the dyno and weight the same as a tin can!

The same chap also runs 2 Polo G40 which are mental little cars but I would not recommend them as an everyday car..
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The older Civics are worth a look as well, especially the VTi versions. Not always the fastest but reliable and can be tuned pretty easily.

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PostPosted: 11:11 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the grim reaper wrote:
The older Civics are worth a look as well, especially the VTi versions. Not always the fastest but reliable and can be tuned pretty easily.

Cheers

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PostPosted: 14:46 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here you go:

Ebay Clicky

High-ish mileage but cambelt done and you get a free toll kit in the booth. I am unsure as to whether this is an RPG to blow up toll booths or a time machine to avoid speeding tickets on the M6 toll road Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 19:06 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for all the replies, loads more than I'd ever considered.

TBH, the Mk2 8v seems to be the best option but I'm open minded and whatever mentioned comes up at the best price I'll nab. Will post results Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick warning about the mk.2 gti is that they are reasonably nickable, so if they don't have a Thatcham alarm and/or immobilizer they are very expensive to insure.

I looked at one recently and the insurers I spoke to wouldn't insure without an alarm/immobilizer. So make sure you have budgeted for adding one if it doesn't have one.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackdim wrote:
Cheers for all the replies, loads more than I'd ever considered.

TBH, the Mk2 8v seems to be the best option but I'm open minded and whatever mentioned comes up at the best price I'll nab. Will post results Very Happy


A mate of mine has a nice MOT'd 4 door GTI for sale if you're interested.
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can pickup a 8v Mk3 GTI for less then a grand.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marjay, cheers for the offer but I'm not quite ready to buy yet. When I'm sorted I'll shout you and see if he's still got it Smile.

The mk3 would do, but I much prefer the square retro lines of the Mk2. Also cheers for the heads up on the alarm, will keep my eye out for that Smile.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 12 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
You can pickup a 8v Mk3 GTI for less then a grand.


Yes, and you recently discovered why that is - because they're shit.

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