Motorbike tax petition

[maddog1982]

https://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/48869

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So based on emissions to be fair they'd have to add emissions from bikes to the MOT.

That said, I'm amazed the question hasn't been asked and answered before.

Petition ends 16/4/14.
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AWOOGA AWOOGA

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=284264
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[stinkwheel]

My. What a novel idea. I see no way it can possibly fail.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=275868
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=270169
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=1380619
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=1809162
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=3802480
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=2072927

Maybe I'll go and start one saying I want to pay less income tax.
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[Skudd]

Is it cus I is Blick bruv?
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[Rogerborg]

When I see it being promoted by MCN and MAG or BMF, I'll put 2 minutes into it.
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[handbasket]

Derp.

[G]

As ever - how many people and how much 'stuff' can your bike carry?
How often are bikes used for leisure rather than utitarian purposes when compared to low Co2 cars? What about the various other classes that aren't emissions related?

[handbasket]

The average car carries a driver and 0.2 passengers, causes massively more congestion etc etc.

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[stiglet]

Technically, assuming tax just based on CO2, then yes, bikes should be paying less tax in general.

However, given that the EU are kicking up a fuss about the NOX emissions coming from British roads and the fact that most bikes are terrible on NOX emissions I think we get a fair deal as it is already.

I wouldn't want any attention given to bike emissions just at this moment

[raesewell]

It'll never make 100000 by the 16th April
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[Rogerborg]

[Skudd]

My works car park is full of single use vehicles, if all went on bikes you could have 3 times more vehicles in the car park.
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[Rogerborg]

Hmm, that's a fair point. The M77 needs to be slightly more congested to make filtering easier.
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[G]

When I was commuting on the M4 for a bit some years ago, one day me and another rider kept swapping places.

They'd pass me when it opened up and I'd pass them in traffic.
I realised I was actually speeding up in the traffic, if anything .

[blurredman]

I'd rather motorcycles not be judged on emissions. That would mean much stricter MOT's for a start. Motorcycles are tempermental things.
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[G]

Especially when cats are removed for weight saving, if nothing else.

[Kickstart]

Hi

No reason it would mean emissions tests for bikes on the MOT. The car test doesn't measure CO2 emissions (which is pretty much directly related to fuel consumption for a particular fuel) and that is what VED for recent cars is based on

[handbasket]

For commuting it's 1.2:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/8940/nts2010-09.pdf

[Kickstart]

And it is 2 for holidays

Even 1.2 is probably far better than bikes manage, and in flowing traffic the size of the vehicle is far less relevant than the gap they need to leave.

To add to the fun, bus occupancy is about 9.

All the best

Keith
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