Not bike related.. small lathe or mini mill?

[kramdra]

I intend to buy this.. its going to save me money over having parts made (which is bloody expensive!) and a lot of time over trying to bodge with wrong tools (a cheap hand drill is not a lathe.. bearings fucked ). ***

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360344827331

A small lathe should be able to do most things I want. A mill would have some advantages and be easier to set up and use? but lack screw cutting. The above looks like one of the better ones available?

(budget under £1000 inc tooling, to fit on decent sized bench and be moveable by me, without help)

*** I will probably end up with less spare time and money

[SQL]

For that price I would be getting a older 2nd hand lathe.

[kramdra]

I assume you mean english? the problem with those is most are very big and heavy. The ones that are not are usually imperial gears/lead screw or very far away...

Alternatively Im tempted to buy a headstock, and XY table and some suitable lumps of metal for a Z column and other fixtures. I like the idea this would let me do in-place removal of things like exhaust studs..

https://www.amadeal.co.uk/acatalog/Headstock-Assembly-for-CJ18-Series-AMA_SP_CJ18_013CRB.html#SID=299

[SQL]

Not necessary English, depends on the application, if it was me I would want the best 2nd hand lathe I could get for £450.

if you want to use it for essentially a big drill then fair enough. I would be looking at something like this if it was me.

[Taught2BCauti...]

[MCN]

You can do almost any milling work in a lathe too.
Use your head.

[kramdra]

Too big, perhaps not so bad without the cabinet but its got a pretty massive motor and pulley system inside. Also collection only from swansea...

This will mostly live in upstairs spare room, which is not ideal

[Pete.]

That machine is junk. You'll find that the gib on the cross-slide doesn't fit properly, it allows the slide to lift and causes chatter and poor finish. They also have a habit of stripping gears and burning out motor controllers.
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[c_dug]

A lathe is far more versatile than a mill.

We have a bunch of lathes from the sixties and seventies in our workshop and two of six are in metric, old lathes aren't necessarily in Imperial.

I've never used a new lathe, but our new Mill isn't up to the standard of the old bridgeports despite them having 30 years of use on them and mostly sits there unused.

Basically I'd go for an old Colchester lathe if I needed one.machine.
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[Taught2BCauti...]

I swear it said £205 postage when I looked last night

It does look like a re-badged Clarke or Sealey though - and you might be right about the hand drill - the motor is only 550W.

I am looking for something similar at the moment, but I don't think this would be powerful enough.
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[Fizzer Thou]

I would go for a Myford ML7.I have one and it is worth its weight in titanium

https://www.myford-lathes.com/used.htm
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[kramdra]

[c_dug]

The Drummond one won't be that big, the table will be at roughly waist height, and it's taller than it is long.
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[kramdra]

[Pete.]

That M type is three times more than it's worth. I sold my dad's one with motor, bench and a stack of tools for £200 ish

[Pete.]

Granville lathe in Woking. Probably 3 times the weight of that noodle and not metric but what a nice machine. Inside, outside and soft jaws on a Pratt chuck, that's got to be worth near the current bid price.

https://r.ebay.com/ycPwyw
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[kramdra]

I did not see your post in time to buy it I had looked through most of ebay, many, many pages annoyed I did not see it.

Im going to assume I could learn to live with inches or replace the leadscrew to convert to metric.. seems gear sets would be very similar just different combinations.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220578592496

too far
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171883565768
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261991404906


Near... looks worn for the price.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151752506641

[c_dug]

What do you actually plan on doing so often that metric screw cutting is a deciding factor?

For almost every job I've done in the last two and a half years a tail stock die holder has been more than adequate.
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[kramdra]

Perhaps not often but I would like to be able to cut large threads, 30mm+

Im also going to need a vertical slide, 4 jaw chuck, collets etc.. where to buy from - none are cheap on ebay, any good shops?

Ive got some tool bits, 3/8", 1/2.. then some massive 1" and 2" x6" lumps of HSSco. Some are ground others plain. So hoping I dont need to buy much.

[Pete.]

There's a Warco 300 on Gumtree. It's a bit limiting in it's work envelope because of the cross-slide table but it does double-up as a milling machine, of sorts.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/lathes/for-sale/1128357888

One of these just today sold for £840 on eBay.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

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[Pete.]

ML4 in Luton currently very cheap. I know it's old and it looks rusty but it would clean up to work better than that noodle and hasn't been butchered. Apparently has all it's changewheels, original paint and for a bonus it will cut both Metric and English threads.

https://r.ebay.com/WxdE2Y
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[kramdra]

The ml4 went very cheap but too far for me... nothing close enough and really dont care to hire a van and collect. I want it delivered

Im probably going to get one of the 10x16 chinese ones with MT4 spindle.. 120-150kg and perfect size.

[kramdra]

Had a look at these today, probaby ordering something for Saturday delivery

The smaller machines, 7-14, 8-16 are tiny

https://www.warco.co.uk/metal-lathes-metalworking-lathe-machine/16-wm-240-variable-speed-lathe.html

https://www.warco.co.uk/metal-lathes-metalworking-lathe-machine/17-wm-250-variable-speed-lathe.html

They look good. I like the 250 other than bed is a bit too long. Trying to decide.. main difference is extra 100 quid for the bigger spindle and longer bed, 200w more motor..

Spec and bits included are quite a bit better than the amadeal version.

[Pete.]

250 has leadscrew reverse too.

Gear-head machine here not too far from you.

https://r.ebay.com/sXJNu1
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a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good