ER6-F Electrical Issue

LukeD1357 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Karma :

Hi all,
Bought an ER6-F 2009 before I'd passed my test but I stuck to starting it every day and leaving it to idle for a few minutes.
I forgot to do this for around a month, went to start it and nothing happened, turning the key didn't do anything, none of the dash lit up or anything.
I jumped it using jump leads and it started fine, but as soon as you took the leads off, it died.
So I presumed it was the battery, I then bought a brand new battery, charged it overnight and then tried it. Still nothing happened.
Any ideas what this could be? I've checked all the fuses, but now even using jump leads doesn't do anything.

Thanks in advance.

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chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

What actually happens when you turn the ignition on?
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LukeD1357 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Karma :

Nothing happens at all when you turn the ignition, nothing lights up, no noises or anything, its as if its not connected. And I was starting it daily to make sure it didn't seize up or anything. And yes its definitely connected the right way

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Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

If you separate out the two incidents (starting/idling/starting and fitting a new battery), then the most logical problem is a blown fuse. Either the main 30A one on the starter relay near the battery, or one of the others in the fuse box wherever that lives.

Nothing in the description of the problem gives a reason for anything going wrong. Starting and idling is pointless, but won't cause any significant problems. Jump starting is fine, despite tales of woe from 16 year olds thinking that must be the reason their ped is fucked. Charging a new battery overnight is the correct thing to do, and fitting it the wrong way round is difficult on most bikes - the leads won't reach the terminals.

However, leave a bike for a month or 12, fit a new battery and try starting, and sometimes a fuse will blow. I've had it happen to me.

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

You've done more harm than good starting it.... take battery off and leave it charging.

My bike hadn't been started for 2 months and it fired up today and got ragged silly. You've got it a bit warm and shut it off. Engines wear faster when cold....constantly doing that is gonna break something.

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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

So you reckon if I start my bike for 5 minutes every day and just leave it all will be well?

LukeD1357 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Karma :

wots · World Chat Champion Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Karma :

It's the main fuse. Left hand side with the relay. Mine died on a ride, all fine then just popped. Take off the seat, the left side panel black thing and it's between the two rails in the frame. It's not with the fuses in the fuse box.

EDIT: If you don't know your left from your right (I didn't when I started was used to offside nearside), it's the opposite side to the fuse box.
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LukeD1357 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Karma :

And the people saying that starting it everyday is bad, when I am unable to ride it, what do you suggest I do? Let it sit there and not start it at all?

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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Sure. Keep the tank full, keep the battery charged, put it on the centre stand, on a block of wood if you like to get the pressure off the tyres. It's not going to seize solid over a few months.

If it's not the main fuse, do yourself a favour and buy a cheap multimeter. It's far, far cheaper and quicker than guessing.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

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Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

I'm willing to give it a go...With a 125. I'll buy one at end of the year Thumbs Up

LukeD1357 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Karma :

She's alive, main starter fuse had blown, thanks a lot guys.