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Saraya
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Ground anchor. Reply with quote
Before I make another newbie error, like my previous Oxford security purchases – I want to check with you guys. Is this ok for a ground anchor?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mammoth-grd003-Concrete-In-Ground-Anchor/dp/B004FS0Z58/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1463389812&sr=8-3&keywords=motorcycle+ground+anchor

If not, would you please recommend another? It’s got to be a stuff in wet concrete one and not a screw down one. And also, it can’t be brightly coloured as it’s sort of being hidden in a hedge. (Don’t ask!)
Thank you. Smile
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Andy_Pagin
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Depends what it's made from, could it resist a bolt cropper or angle grinder?
Also the hoop looks a bit small to me, would it take the chain you're going to use?
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-duty-90mm-motorcycle-ground-anchor-Almax-IV-compatible-100-British-Made-/291750638185?hash=item43edb17269:g:NroAAOSwFqJWoIwS

just picked up one of these the are a flush fit to the ground
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrbox wrote:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-duty-90mm-motorcycle-ground-anchor-Almax-IV-compatible-100-British-Made-/291750638185?hash=item43edb17269:g:NroAAOSwFqJWoIwS

just picked up one of these the are a flush fit to the ground

^^^
Want that one.

The eye-bolt ones have tight ringpieces steady but if you can't get a 16mm/19mm chain through it, you might as well not bother.
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JoeDaStudd
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've probably go with a Y anchor or one of the Pragmasis anchors.
Just make sure it can take upto a 16mm/19mm chain.
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Saraya
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I get the one from Ebay that Mrbox posted - is the right stuff to stick it in? And do you think one bag would be enough? Sorry to be a pest. Hubby is worse at DIY than I am, so there's no point asking him!
https://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/postmix-concrete---20kg-747697

Thanks again people. Smile
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alanstott21
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I bought this one https://www.bulldogmcs.co.uk/#!product-page/zgpj2/65ec7d20-0723-8952-7b8a-c10a86096744
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saraya wrote:
If I get the one from Ebay that Mrbox posted - is the right stuff to stick it in? And do you think one bag would be enough? Sorry to be a pest. Hubby is worse at DIY than I am, so there's no point asking him!
https://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/postmix-concrete---20kg-747697

Thanks again people. Smile


I put one of those in at weekend, it's big bastard under the surface. To answer your question, it really does depend how big a hole you dig!

I used one bag of cement, 1 sharp sand, 1 builders sand and 1 gravel. It worked out cheaper than postcrete and I did mix it a little stronger too! I used the builders sand in the last top mix to make it look nice.

I did cement in a washing line pole too though...

I did have some sand left, as intended, to place slabs down neatly...
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:

The eye-bolt ones have tight ringpieces steady but if you can't get a 16mm/19mm chain through it, you might as well not bother.


Whilst mostly true, one of these solves that problem.

To OP: Chain through the bike, anti pinch pin with squire lock at the anchor end.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saraya wrote:
If I get the one from Ebay that Mrbox posted - is the right stuff to stick it in? And do you think one bag would be enough? Sorry to be a pest. Hubby is worse at DIY than I am, so there's no point asking him!
https://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/postmix-concrete---20kg-747697

That's the stuff, if you don't want to be messing around with separate bags of sand and cement. As to sizing, I'd err on two bags for a few £££ difference and dig a large hole - it's the mass of cement that's going to keep it in place.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just to deviate slightly.

Are ground anchors just as effective if they are put into a brick wall or is it largely a waste of time?
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mrbox
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dave70 wrote:
Just to deviate slightly.

Are ground anchors just as effective if they are put into a brick wall or is it largely a waste of time?


I would suggest not as secure.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Saraya wrote:
If I get the one from Ebay that Mrbox posted - is the right stuff to stick it in? And do you think one bag would be enough? Sorry to be a pest. Hubby is worse at DIY than I am, so there's no point asking him!
https://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/postmix-concrete---20kg-747697

That's the stuff, if you don't want to be messing around with separate bags of sand and cement. As to sizing, I'd err on two bags for a few £££ difference and dig a large hole - it's the mass of cement that's going to keep it in place.


you can use some old bricks as filler if you dig too big a hole Thumbs Up I always end up with a slack hole every bloody time Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dave70 wrote:
Are ground anchors just as effective if they are put into a brick wall or is it largely a waste of time?

I wouldn't. Laughing

How effective it'll be at making your house fall down should someone remove the ground anchor from the wall will depend on how important the wall you use is. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, I think I'll scrap the wall idea. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dave70 wrote:
Just to deviate slightly.

Are ground anchors just as effective if they are put into a brick wall or is it largely a waste of time?


Lump hammer and a cold steel chisel. Or a battery SDS and it's out in no time.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saraya wrote:
If I get the one from Ebay that Mrbox posted - is the right stuff to stick it in? And do you think one bag would be enough? Sorry to be a pest. Hubby is worse at DIY than I am, so there's no point asking him!
https://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/postmix-concrete---20kg-747697

Thanks again people. Smile

I've used that stuff for fence posts, you tip sack in the hole around the post, add water as per the instructions and it sets perfectly. No mixing and no mess.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks again guys. Smile
Now I either have to borrow a spade from someone that knows I have no garden and explain why I'm interfering with a council (?) hedge. Or go buy one.
This biking malarkey is fun. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saraya wrote:
Thanks again guys. Smile
Now I either have to borrow a spade from someone that knows I have no garden and explain why I'm interfering with a council (?) hedge. Or go buy one.
This biking malarkey is fun. Laughing


fence post tool ftw Thumbs Up

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fence-Post-Hole-Soil-Digger-Grabbers-Metal-Handle-Rubber-Grip-Garden-Tool-Kit-/251848265235?hash=item3aa3538e13:g:KBAAAOSweW5U5wMa
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Saraya
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you - but I don't think I'd get it in. I'm hiding the anchor under a holly and hawthorn hedge. Not sure I can get in there with a spade either actually. I might have to spend ages with a little trowel. Sad Nearly lost an eye yesterday wrapping the chain around the holly trunk!
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 16 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Small army entrenching tool. Thumbs Up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrenching_tool


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Saraya
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep. That's what I need. Thanks! Laughing
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