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PostPosted: 11:48 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Mounting a TV to plasterboard wall. Reply with quote

I have a fake plasterboard chimney in my place and I want to mount a TV on it.

Current plan is pull out the iron fake fireplace, send a small child up it with a lump of 2x4 and screw into that to distribute the weight more, any better ideas?
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A decent sized tv bracket and a couple of gravity toggles you should be alright.
Unless your tv is old and ridiculously heavy. I fit is, you could go cutting into the board, small section removed and slide some 18mm MDF to spread the load.....
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure it's fake and not just drylined brickwork?
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure it's fake and not just drylined brickwork?


Yeah the house never had a chimney.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A decent sized tv bracket and a couple of gravity toggles you should be alright.
Unless your tv is old and ridiculously heavy. I fit is, you could go cutting into the board, small section removed and slide some 18mm MDF to spread the load.....


The bolts to mount the mount are m8 I don't fancy that with plasterboard fixings.



Do reckon the lumps of wood to brace would be better horizontal or vertical?
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lotta DIY going on at your place.

Remember to finish one job before starting another. Down that path madness lies.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The bolts to mount the mount are m8 I don't fancy that with plasterboard fixings.

Do reckon the lumps of wood to brace would be better horizontal or vertical?



If you can access the back there will be some type of framework to take the plasterboard. Depending on what way the boards are laid, if there are any joints. The frame work will tell you what way to go.

Plaster board fixing can take up to 20kg. my tv weighs about 7 possibly 8.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick easy and cheap fix then,

Piece of 18mm ply (MDF is too soft I think) cut to size about 4 inches smaller than the TV all round.
Then screw panel to wall (Countersunk fixings so flush screwheads) screwed to wall VIA Rawl UNO plugs
and additionally a generous bead of gripfill all over the rear of the ply so it sticks directly to surface of the
plasterboard too. This is to help spread load and massively reduce strain on fixings, which can't hurt bearing
in mind the substrate. Sand surface of ply, Caulk in edges for tidyness then paint with the same paint as the wall.
What you'll end with is a rectangle of painted ply attached to the wall.

When it's fully dry (approx 48 hours if the place is nice and warm) then just screw TV bracket of
choice directly to ply backboard, no plugs required, Make sure the screws are long enough to go right
through the lot plasterboard and all, so 38-40 mm should suit fine. If it is battened behind, you may be
lucky and catch one or two with screws anyway.

You should get a great solid fix with all the blood and guts hidden by the TV itself, also it steps the TV away
from the wall a little which makes getting behind with a duster a little bit easier
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Lotta DIY going on at your place.

Remember to finish one job before starting another. Down that path madness lies.


Tell me about it Laughing

Yesterday was the first day I didn't go into a Diy shop in 2 weeks.

I am actually doing all these things too not just talking about it.

The weekend was spent in the loft, cut up a water tank removed loads of wood and more rubbish from up there. Fitted 2 lights and plug socket. Finally sorted the TV aerial (3 broken aerials in the loft, the cable wired into the socket went nowhere the other cable behind the socket not wired it was cut off in the loft and then we found the socket itself was somehow broken). I installed a better hatch with a ladder built in too which was satisfing.

I still want to board and re insulate it however am awaiting results of my application for a grant and a plumber to come room and move some errant pipe work.

I'm having your problem with trades people, called a plumber, a glazer and a driveway bloke yesterday, all said would call me that evening, guess how many did Rolling Eyes

I finished the laminate flooring the week before. I'm getting near the end of things I can do luckily. Fascias will be the last thing probably but I want to get the drive done first so I have a firmer ground to work from.

After that it will just be painting Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna have a little rant actually, I'm really fucked off with some of the work that has been done before I bought the place. The best way to describe it it is is the person who did it absolutely HATED his job.

Example:- The garden fence was painted. There is brown paint all over the patio, all over the door (a good 3 ft away) there are plants that have been painted rather than moved and the fuck I can only assume wiped off his bushes on the lamp post outside Rolling Eyes

Another one some new lights were fitted upstairs. In the loft the insulation was pulled back where lights were fitted and then left, how much of a fucking arsehole do you have to be not to just tuck the insulation back?

The bathroom was fitted with a new tap, the braided hose that was used was too long so was kinked where it has been asked to bend too much. No water would come out of the cold tap. It took me less than 20 minutes to drive to the nearest plumbing shop, spend £4 something on shorter hoses and reconnect it all. The waste for the Bathroom leaked too, it hadn't been tighten up properly.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see it all the time Chris, but it keeps me in work. The place I'm working now (not one of mine) was done
up by a minicab driver on a shoestring budget. It shows. However silver linings and all that. I am now the first person
the owner calls for any work that comes up in that particular house regardless of trade. When she bought it,
she employed a general builder, (me) a sparks and a painter to bring it up to a standard where she could
move in, because the 60 a day smoking, deep fried food eating cab driver divorcee had coated the place in a mixture
of grease, nicotine and misery. Plus he added a great deal of dangerous bodgery to his home which all needed rectifying.
Some of the worst I have seen actually, anyway due to their rather unimpressive performance the sparks and painter
have since been sacked and not replaced. I have their work now. Mwhahahaha.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Lotta DIY going on at your place.

Remember to finish one job before starting another. Down that path madness lies.


Tell me about it Laughing

Yesterday was the first day I didn't go into a Diy shop in 2 weeks.

I am actually doing all these things too not just talking about it.

The weekend was spent in the loft, cut up a water tank removed loads of wood and more rubbish from up there. Fitted 2 lights and plug socket. Finally sorted the TV aerial (3 broken aerials in the loft, the cable wired into the socket went nowhere the other cable behind the socket not wired it was cut off in the loft and then we found the socket itself was somehow broken). I installed a better hatch with a ladder built in too which was satisfing.

I still want to board and re insulate it however am awaiting results of my application for a grant and a plumber to come room and move some errant pipe work.

I'm having your problem with trades people, called a plumber, a glazer and a driveway bloke yesterday, all said would call me that evening, guess how many did Rolling Eyes

I finished the laminate flooring the week before. I'm getting near the end of things I can do luckily. Fascias will be the last thing probably but I want to get the drive done first so I have a firmer ground to work from.

After that it will just be painting Crying or Very sad


I have been reading your many threads on various things and been thinking "finish a job you are starting" to ensure that you don't live on a building site.

As I have mentioned - we are currently going through many renovations in our flat that we have just bought. In the time we have taken to not complete a spare room you must have posted at least 10 threads. We have not been hanging around either.

We have stripped all the lining paper down, taken the skirting and coving off, removed the electric night storage heater, had an Arial socket installed and cable ran up to the loft via the cavity. Then we have re plastered, mist coated the walls and ceiling and installed new skirting boards then started to caulk in around the doors and skirtings etc pending the second caulking in this evening along with second fill on the skirting and window sill ready for sand back and then cut in and paint the ceiling it's first coat tonight.

Then we have to get the second coat of colour on the ceiling and start to get the colour on the walls and skirtings.

My spend so far is well in excess of £1000 - but that includes some tools.

This is also with my brother in law being a very good painter and decorator and only wanting beer money to do a lot of the work and having contacts into other trades to get things like skirtings fit to a high standard by a pro (£50 to fit them and he provided everything apart from the actual skirting board). Also I have access to trade accounts where I am buying things like the paint £10/£20 a tin cheaper than I can get it in B&Q/Wickes for. But I am using Dulux Trade mould resistant stuff.

I am yet to buy doors and sockets/switches as "finishing touches" too.

On top of this, I have had 6 sealed units in the double glazing replaced that were cracked or blown - again by a friend who has access to trade prices on the units and wanted some extra cash to fit.

bear in mind that bad quality workmanship stands out like a sore thumb and doesn't last in the long run and quickly looks tired. When I want to redecorate on top of what we have done so far it will be really easy to just put a new colour on and totally freshen the room up.

So in short, we have done a fraction of the number of jobs in the same time frame but we are ensuring that everything that is done is removing all the old "DIY" (read bodges in this case) and rebuilding up.

The difference is massive in the finish.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are overestimating what I have done.

The only big jobs are the flooring in one room and clearing the loft and sorting the hatch, both of which took a weekend ish. I have been at it 3/4 weeks now.

The rest has been fixes, plumbing/boiler etc. and the usual door handles/shelves/curtains etc. Other than a table being full of full of tools and the loft hatch needing some trim to blend it into the artex there is nothing remotely building site like. The bigger issue is 2 rooms FULL of unpacked boxes. Laughing

Fasicas - Seeing if it is feasible to DIY
Laminate - done
Loft - awaiting grant application
Plumbing - fixed
More - plumbing - fixed
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and My missus' dad has painted the kitchen and a few wooden bits doors/sills etc., he is retired and puts in a few hours a few days a week to help out.
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That's always nice when you can rely on family workforce. I did a lot of work in a block of low rise flats last year.
All the rubbish was kept in one of the top floor flats and by the time it was over there was loads of it, Just traipsing
it all through the building down 6 flights of stairs to the van was a mission, but with father in law and a few of
the wifes brothers on board we made light work of it. It cost me a fried breakfast for the lot of them down at the cafe. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
That's always nice when you can rely on family workforce. I did a lot of work in a block of low rise flats last year.
All the rubbish was kept in one of the top floor flats and by the time it was over there was loads of it, Just traipsing
it all through the building down 6 flights of stairs to the van was a mission, but with father in law and a few of
the wifes brothers on board we made light work of it. It cost me a fried breakfast for the lot of them down at the cafe. Thumbs Up


It's costing me a fortune in beer and take aways Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joiner installed a 50inch TV on our office wall which is a plaster board stud wall thing, not brick anyway.

He found the upright wood supports/studs, screwed a piece of plywood on and attached the tv bracket to the plywood.

Job jobbed, only issue would be if you wanted it really really close the wall as you are pushing out however think the plywood is.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
Joiner installed a 50inch TV on our office wall which is a plaster board stud wall thing, not brick anyway.

He found the upright wood supports/studs, screwed a piece of plywood on and attached the tv bracket to the plywood.

Job jobbed, only issue would be if you wanted it really really close the wall as you are pushing out however think the plywood is.


I've ordered a stud finder to check but I don't think there is anything behind it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to be something holding the plasterboard up.

He did the knocking thing then started tapping a nail through until he found the wood.
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 02 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

About to put a 55 inch TV on a plasterboard wall with these.

https://gripitfixings.co.uk
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wots wrote:
About to put a 55 inch TV on a plasterboard wall with these.

https://gripitfixings.co.uk


They look good, let me know how it goes. Thats looks like a good option.
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Re. the plumbing - whatever you do, make sure you don't neglect any leaks. We have had a 'drip' leak since we bought our house and it has taken until now for us to find out where it has been coming from - I thought it was a leak behind the tiles in the downstairs bathroom and have had them off twice to see if I could find it, with no success. Turns out it has been coming from a faulty compression joint between the floors.

The upshot of 8 years of tiny leak - sodden chipboard floors, soggy joists and a new downstairs bathroom needed. This is where I am to date...
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My house has been in a constant state of "me doing stuff to it" since I bought it April 2015.

Quite enjoyed it at first, now... meh.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 03 Feb 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed my tv on plasterboard in my bedroom.

Internal wall, no studding.

Used a fully adjustable mount for the tv and attached it to the wall using a Grip It plasterboard fixing and the thing is fantastic!!

They're like plastic dishes that sit in the plasterboard and when you click it into position it opens up 2 winglets that help spread the force on it. Mightily impressed with them!

Can get 'em in wickes and the like.. different sizes. Well impressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3gowVET6M
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Grip it it is then Thumbs Up

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